Xfce project and financial contributions
kevin.bowen at gmail.com
kevin.bowen at gmail.com
Wed Apr 14 23:52:20 CEST 2021
This is all really good information Yousuf.
I will be taking a closer look at the Software Freedom Conservancy.
Although, I will say that it is solely based out of the U.S. and thus
subject, specifically, to Federal IRS regulations. Whereas, from what I
can gather so far, Open Collective, has a structure in which there are
several options for a European fiscal sponsorship. What that means,
exactly, is TBD.
I am also sensitive to the fact that many of the core devs are not
located within the U.S. (I am based out of Seattle, btw).
I am also looking at SPI (https://www.spi-inc.org/); but, their offered
services seems pretty opaque, to me, right now. I am still in the
research phase of this project and probably will be for a few more weeks.
Creating an Xfce foundation is definitely out-of-scope with my work
here. Right now, the focus is just getting Xfce's funds out of
bountysource and into a new service. In my opinion, that would be a
separate discussion to have.
I am definitely most focused on Xfce getting a service that will allow
both one time, as well as, recurring financial contributions.
Suggestions about donor's pages & report, ala Mint, have been in the
back of my mind for some time, and we'll cross that bridge once we get
there. I like the ideas you have suggested. ;-)
Again. Great input! I appreciate it.
Kevin
On 4/14/21 12:18 PM, Yousuf Philips wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> I recently stumbled on opencollective, as it's being used by Endeavour
> OS, and think it's a great idea. Also recently stumbled on some bad
> news about bountysource on twitter[1] where the user mentioned that
> they were back at it again, so we should definitely not support them.
> Another option might be the Software Freedom Conservancy, which I
> heard handles all legal stuff, taxes, donations, etc. so that devs can
> focus on what they do best. Not sure if this was ever discussed on the
> ML, but it would be great if an Xfce foundation was set up, similar to
> how Gnome and KDE have one.
>
> I've run personal fundraising campaigns, as well as proposed a
> fundraising campaign when I was contributing to LibreOffice, and also
> do marketing in my day job, so here are some ideas I've thought about
> for xfce from months back. We should take examples from Linux Mint[2],
> Sparky[3] and Ubuntu Mate[4], who put out funding reports of donations
> that come in and what they are or will be used for. We should have a
> sponsors page with donors who pledge a particular amount each month or
> support xfce by other means, e.g. GhostBSD[5]. Have both one-time and
> monthly donation options with minimum amounts that are reasonable, so
> that processing fees don't eat a huge chunk of the donation. Set
> donation goals that when reached, something will be unlocked, e.g.
> contracting a web dev to revamp the website, buying HiDPI screens to
> help fix related bugs, etc.
>
> [1] https://twitter.com/CassidyJames/status/1379810821874745349
> <https://twitter.com/CassidyJames/status/1379810821874745349>
> [2] https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4049
> <https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4049>
> [3] https://sparkylinux.org/april-2020-donation-report/
> <https://sparkylinux.org/april-2020-donation-report/>
> [4]
> http://web.archive.org/web/20170516171647/https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-march-2017-supporters/
> <http://web.archive.org/web/20170516171647/https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-march-2017-supporters/>
> [5] http://ghostbsd.org/sponsor#BecomeaSponsor
> <http://ghostbsd.org/sponsor#BecomeaSponsor>
>
> Regards,
> Yousuf
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:29 AM Kevin Bowen <kevin.bowen at gmail.com
> <mailto:kevin.bowen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> The Xfce project is currently in the process of looking to engage
> with a new
> organization to help us manage our collective funds as well as
> allow us to
> solicit donations and encourage fundraising efforts directed to end
> users who
> would like to support Xfce financially.
>
> Back in June 2020, Simon had elaborated
> [here](https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/18/why-bountysource-why/
> <https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/18/why-bountysource-why/>)
> as well as
> [here](https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/26/bountysource-update/
> <https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/26/bountysource-update/>)
> on some of the issues encountered with Bountysource and that Xfce
> has,
> subsequently,
> disabled its bug bounties and is looking to separate from its
> association with
> Bountysource.
>
> As of this month, the Xfce team is considering signing up with
> [opencollective](https://opencollective.com/
> <https://opencollective.com/>) to assist us in managing
> donations and financial contributions.
>
> There are a few other options/orgs that are still being
> considered; but,
> opencollective is looking like a contender for where we will be
> moving
> towards to manage collecting funds.
>
>
> Hopefully, we can announce, in a few weeks, that we are open for
> business; and,
> a few new donation buttons can be put up on our pages. Perhaps we can
> even do a PR push to do a fundraiser. I am open to suggestions on
> how,
> exactly, to pursue this.
>
> That being said, I would like to open this up to the general dev
> mailing
> list for discussion and feedback for at least two weeks before we
> make a
> final decision. As of today, the decision to go with
> opencollective is
> not yet final.
>
> Any constructive feedback is welcome. Additionally, we are open to
> considering other sites/orgs for handling our donations.
>
> Thank you,
>
> kevin
>
>
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