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<p>This is all really good information Yousuf. <br>
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<p>I will be taking a closer look at the Software Freedom
Conservancy. Although, I will say that it is solely based out of
the U.S. and thus subject, specifically, to Federal IRS
regulations. Whereas, from what I can gather so far, Open
Collective, has a structure in which there are several options for
a European fiscal sponsorship. What that means, exactly, is TBD.</p>
<p>I am also sensitive to the fact that many of the core devs are
not located within the U.S. (I am based out of Seattle, btw).<br>
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<p>I am also looking at SPI (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.spi-inc.org/">https://www.spi-inc.org/</a>); but, their
offered services seems pretty opaque, to me, right now. I am still
in the research phase of this project and probably will be for a
few more weeks.<br>
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<p>Creating an Xfce foundation is definitely out-of-scope with my
work here. Right now, the focus is just getting Xfce's funds out
of bountysource and into a new service. In my opinion, that would
be a separate discussion to have.<br>
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<p>I am definitely most focused on Xfce getting a service that will
allow both one time, as well as, recurring financial
contributions. Suggestions about donor's pages & report, ala
Mint, have been in the back of my mind for some time, and we'll
cross that bridge once we get there. I like the ideas you have
suggested. ;-)</p>
<p>Again. Great input! I appreciate it.</p>
<p>Kevin<br>
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<div>Hi Kevin,</div>
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<div>I recently stumbled on opencollective, as it's being used
by Endeavour OS, and think it's a great idea. Also recently
stumbled on some bad news about bountysource on twitter[1]
where the user mentioned that they were back at it again, so
we should definitely not support them. Another option might be
the Software Freedom Conservancy, which I heard handles all
legal stuff, taxes, donations, etc. so that devs can focus on
what they do best. Not sure if this was ever discussed on the
ML, but it would be great if an Xfce foundation was set up,
similar to how Gnome and KDE have one.</div>
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<div>I've run personal fundraising campaigns, as well as
proposed a fundraising campaign when I was contributing to
LibreOffice, and also do marketing in my day job, so here are
some ideas I've thought about for xfce from months back. We
should take examples from Linux Mint[2], Sparky[3] and Ubuntu
Mate[4], who put out funding reports of donations that come in
and what they are or will be used for. We should have a
sponsors page with donors who pledge a particular amount each
month or support xfce by other means, e.g. GhostBSD[5]. Have
both one-time and monthly donation options with minimum
amounts that are reasonable, so that processing fees don't eat
a huge chunk of the donation. Set donation goals that when
reached, something will be unlocked, e.g. contracting a web
dev to revamp the website, buying HiDPI screens to help fix
related bugs, etc.</div>
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[1] <a
href="https://twitter.com/CassidyJames/status/1379810821874745349"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/CassidyJames/status/1379810821874745349</a>
<div>[2] <a href="https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4049"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4049</a></div>
<div>[3] <a
href="https://sparkylinux.org/april-2020-donation-report/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://sparkylinux.org/april-2020-donation-report/</a></div>
<div>[4] <a
href="http://web.archive.org/web/20170516171647/https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-march-2017-supporters/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://web.archive.org/web/20170516171647/https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-march-2017-supporters/</a></div>
<div>[5] <a href="http://ghostbsd.org/sponsor#BecomeaSponsor"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://ghostbsd.org/sponsor#BecomeaSponsor</a></div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Yousuf<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:29
AM Kevin Bowen <<a href="mailto:kevin.bowen@gmail.com"
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello
all,<br>
<br>
The Xfce project is currently in the process of looking to
engage with a new<br>
organization to help us manage our collective funds as well as
allow us to<br>
solicit donations and encourage fundraising efforts directed
to end <br>
users who<br>
would like to support Xfce financially.<br>
<br>
Back in June 2020, Simon had elaborated <br>
[here](<a
href="https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/18/why-bountysource-why/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/18/why-bountysource-why/</a>)<br>
as well as <br>
[here](<a
href="https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/26/bountysource-update/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/26/bountysource-update/</a>)<br>
on some of the issues encountered with Bountysource and that
Xfce has, <br>
subsequently,<br>
disabled its bug bounties and is looking to separate from its
<br>
association with<br>
Bountysource.<br>
<br>
As of this month, the Xfce team is considering signing up with
<br>
[opencollective](<a href="https://opencollective.com/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://opencollective.com/</a>)
to assist us in managing <br>
donations and financial contributions.<br>
<br>
There are a few other options/orgs that are still being
considered; but, <br>
opencollective is looking like a contender for where we will
be moving <br>
towards to manage collecting funds.<br>
<br>
<br>
Hopefully, we can announce, in a few weeks, that we are open
for <br>
business; and,<br>
a few new donation buttons can be put up on our pages. Perhaps
we can <br>
even do a PR push to do a fundraiser. I am open to suggestions
on how, <br>
exactly, to pursue this.<br>
<br>
That being said, I would like to open this up to the general
dev mailing <br>
list for discussion and feedback for at least two weeks before
we make a <br>
final decision. As of today, the decision to go with
opencollective is <br>
not yet final.<br>
<br>
Any constructive feedback is welcome. Additionally, we are
open to <br>
considering other sites/orgs for handling our donations.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
kevin<br>
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