[Thunar-dev] Introduction

Francesco Pasa francescopasa at gmail.com
Thu Feb 9 22:33:52 CET 2017


I put back the original title, sorry for the mess.

Thanks to everybody for the help!

@André Very well for the progress on xfce4-screenshooter! Maybe you could
also update the wiki entry, so that we know it has been done (or is in
progress) and who is in charge?

I see the list of plugins in the wiki... it seems most important plugins
have already been done or are in progress. There is a link to a huge list
of plugins, some of which I guess need porting to GTK3. Any idea of where
to start, how to check what is the plugin status?

I have collected some ideas as to what could be improved UX wise, if you're
> interested to discuss it let me know.


Wasn't 4.14 meant to be a "0-feature" release?

Cheers,
Francesco

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> Hi, and sorry in advance if this is not somewhere I can give input, but as
> a user and user only, I think it might be a good idea to leave
> xfce4-screenshooter behind. Right now, it's buggy, and I feel like unless
> you wanted to make it usable while porting it to GTK 3, it wouldn't be the
> best use of your time. Although I'm not sure how many people use it,
> perhaps gigolo would be a better place to start? I've attached a couple of
> examples of how xfce4-screenshooter's region capture doesn't really work
> very well (they're supposed to be just white rectangles, but the selection
> outlines tend to get randomly captured or leave artefacts).
>
> Alen Chakarov
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Francesco Pasa <francescopasa at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I totally agree that I need to start from something small. I have a
> little
> > experience with gtk, but not much. I am used to look at other people's
> > code, tough.
> >
> > I see in the list that one small app that I could start with is
> > xfce4-screenshooter, which seems to have nobody in charge for the
> > translation. It's a bit sad to see we do not have many people...
> >
> > For orientation I only need some infos like: how am I supposed to commit
> > my changes and the like. I see there is a git repo, shoud I just clone it
> > and commit or do I need some sort of account? Do you develop in a
> specific
> > branch?
> >
> > Thanks a lot, best,
> > Francesco
> >
> > On 9 February 2017 at 12:00, <xfce4-dev-request at xfce.org> wrote:
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> >> Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:59:33 +0000
> >> From: Simon Steinbeiss <simon at xfce.org>
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> >> Hi Francesco,
> >>
> >> I can only agree with what Alex wrote (the maintenance situation,
> porting
> >> to Gtk3, starting with smaller components). The roadmap, which is sorta
> up
> >> to date, can be found here: https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap
> >>
> >> That said, it is also a question of motivation and of reading the code
> >> that
> >> is there already, as we don't really have the manpower to tutor people.
> >> It's unfortunate, but that's just the way it is at the moment.
> >> Anyway, welcome and I hope you'll find the time and motivation to
> >> contribute!
> >>
> >> If you need help, don't hesitate to ask either on the mailing list or
> >> directly in irc (#xfce-dev on freenode).
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Simon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:08 AM Alex <acs82 at gmx.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Francesco,
> >> >
> >> > these days not much happens on the "thunar-dev" mailing-list. (ca. 1
> >> mail
> >> > per month) Most things are discussed on "xfce4-dev".
> >> >
> >> > I am new to the xfce4 community myself, however regarding Thunar the
> >> first
> >> > thing to achieve probably is to get the gtk3 port finished. The whole
> >> xfce4
> >> > stack currently moves from gtk2 to gtk3. Thunar is probably one of the
> >> > bigger junks to be moved.
> >> > There is already some ongoing development on it, but it seems like the
> >> > port still is experimental:
> >> >
> >> > http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/Experiments-in-porting-exo-
> >> to-Gtk3-td46692.html#a46700
> >> >
> >> > I dont know the current state .. best directly talk to the dev's which
> >> > work on thunar and exo, and ask them where you can help.
> >> > If you dont have experience with gtk, it probably makes sense to first
> >> > move some smaller xfce4 projects to gtk3 to get used to it! ( There
> >> used to
> >> > be some list of projects to be moved, but I dont know where it can be
> >> found
> >> > )
> >> >
> >> > CC to xfce4 dev ... please correct me if I am wrong!
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Alex
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 07.02.2017 14:08, Francesco Pasa wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I am a student and long time user of XFCE (since about 2007). I'd like
> >> to
> >> > become a member of the Thunar development team, if possible. I never
> >> > contributed to a open source project, so some orientation would be
> >> helpful.
> >> > To make it concrete:
> >> >
> >> >    - It there a procedure to become a member of the team?
> >> >    - Is Thunar actively maintained and developed?
> >> >    - In case, how should I start?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance,
> >> >
> >> > Francesco
> >> >
> >> >
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> xfce4-screenshooter works very well for me. I think you have the same
> problem as reported in Bug 9288
> <https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9288>.
> I can't reproduce it here, please add more info to the bug, telling the
> steps to reproduce, which distro and hardware you're using and, due to its
> randomness, what's the approximate rate to produce it (e.g. 1 out 10
> tries).
>
> Cheers,
> André Miranda
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Alen Chakarov <cakedoer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, and sorry in advance if this is not somewhere I can give input, but
> as
> > a user and user only, I think it might be a good idea to leave
> > xfce4-screenshooter behind. Right now, it's buggy, and I feel like unless
> > you wanted to make it usable while porting it to GTK 3, it wouldn't be
> the
> > best use of your time. Although I'm not sure how many people use it,
> > perhaps gigolo would be a better place to start? I've attached a couple
> of
> > examples of how xfce4-screenshooter's region capture doesn't really work
> > very well (they're supposed to be just white rectangles, but the
> selection
> > outlines tend to get randomly captured or leave artefacts).
> >
> > Alen Chakarov
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> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:57:41 +0100
> From: Roland Kuebert <roland at upic.de>
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> Hi André,
>
> On 09.02.2017 15:46, André Miranda wrote:
> > xfce4-screenshooter works very well for me. I think you have the same
> > problem as reported in Bug 9288
> > <https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9288>.
> > I can't reproduce it here, please add more info to the bug, telling the
> > steps to reproduce, which distro and hardware you're using and, due to
> > its randomness, what's the approximate rate to produce it (e.g. 1 out 10
> > tries).
>
> +1 for your work on xfce4-screenshooter, I use it regularly. :)
>
> I've seen these random issues as well but was not aware of the bug
> report. I will contribute some information to it so maybe you or someone
> else can track it down.
>
> Cheers
>
> Roland
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > André Miranda
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Alen Chakarov <cakedoer at gmail.com
> > <mailto:cakedoer at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi, and sorry in advance if this is not somewhere I can give input,
> >     but as a user and user only, I think it might be a good idea to
> >     leave xfce4-screenshooter behind. Right now, it's buggy, and I feel
> >     like unless you wanted to make it usable while porting it to GTK 3,
> >     it wouldn't be the best use of your time. Although I'm not sure how
> >     many people use it, perhaps gigolo would be a better place to start?
> >     I've attached a couple of examples of how xfce4-screenshooter's
> >     region capture doesn't really work very well (they're supposed to be
> >     just white rectangles, but the selection outlines tend to get
> >     randomly captured or leave artefacts).
> >
> >     Alen Chakarov
> >
> >
> >
> >
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