<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I put back the original title, sorry for the mess.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks to everybody for the help!<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">@André Very well for the progress on xfce4-screenshooter! Maybe you could also update the wiki entry, so that we know it has been done (or is in progress) and who is in charge?<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I see the list of plugins in the wiki... it seems most important plugins have already been done or are in progress. There is a link to a huge list of plugins, some of which I guess need porting to GTK3. Any idea of where to start, how to check what is the plugin status?<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I have collected some ideas as to what could be improved UX wise, if you're<br>interested to discuss it let me know.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Wasn't 4.14 meant to be a "0-feature" release?<br><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>Francesco <br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 9 February 2017 at 22:03, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:xfce4-dev-request@xfce.org" target="_blank">xfce4-dev-request@xfce.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send Xfce4-dev mailing list submissions to<br>
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From: Alen Chakarov <<a href="mailto:cakedoer@gmail.com">cakedoer@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Hi, and sorry in advance if this is not somewhere I can give input, but as<br>
a user and user only, I think it might be a good idea to leave<br>
xfce4-screenshooter behind. Right now, it's buggy, and I feel like unless<br>
you wanted to make it usable while porting it to GTK 3, it wouldn't be the<br>
best use of your time. Although I'm not sure how many people use it,<br>
perhaps gigolo would be a better place to start? I've attached a couple of<br>
examples of how xfce4-screenshooter's region capture doesn't really work<br>
very well (they're supposed to be just white rectangles, but the selection<br>
outlines tend to get randomly captured or leave artefacts).<br>
<br>
Alen Chakarov<br>
<br>
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Francesco Pasa <<a href="mailto:francescopasa@gmail.com">francescopasa@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I totally agree that I need to start from something small. I have a little<br>
> experience with gtk, but not much. I am used to look at other people's<br>
> code, tough.<br>
><br>
> I see in the list that one small app that I could start with is<br>
> xfce4-screenshooter, which seems to have nobody in charge for the<br>
> translation. It's a bit sad to see we do not have many people...<br>
><br>
> For orientation I only need some infos like: how am I supposed to commit<br>
> my changes and the like. I see there is a git repo, shoud I just clone it<br>
> and commit or do I need some sort of account? Do you develop in a specific<br>
> branch?<br>
><br>
> Thanks a lot, best,<br>
> Francesco<br>
><br>
> On 9 February 2017 at 12:00, <<a href="mailto:xfce4-dev-request@xfce.org">xfce4-dev-request@xfce.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:59:33 +0000<br>
>> From: Simon Steinbeiss <<a href="mailto:simon@xfce.org">simon@xfce.org</a>><br>
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>> Hi Francesco,<br>
>><br>
>> I can only agree with what Alex wrote (the maintenance situation, porting<br>
>> to Gtk3, starting with smaller components). The roadmap, which is sorta up<br>
>> to date, can be found here: <a href="https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/<wbr>4.14/roadmap</a><br>
>><br>
>> That said, it is also a question of motivation and of reading the code<br>
>> that<br>
>> is there already, as we don't really have the manpower to tutor people.<br>
>> It's unfortunate, but that's just the way it is at the moment.<br>
>> Anyway, welcome and I hope you'll find the time and motivation to<br>
>> contribute!<br>
>><br>
>> If you need help, don't hesitate to ask either on the mailing list or<br>
>> directly in irc (#xfce-dev on freenode).<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers<br>
>> Simon<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:08 AM Alex <<a href="mailto:acs82@gmx.de">acs82@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > Hi Francesco,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > these days not much happens on the "thunar-dev" mailing-list. (ca. 1<br>
>> mail<br>
>> > per month) Most things are discussed on "xfce4-dev".<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I am new to the xfce4 community myself, however regarding Thunar the<br>
>> first<br>
>> > thing to achieve probably is to get the gtk3 port finished. The whole<br>
>> xfce4<br>
>> > stack currently moves from gtk2 to gtk3. Thunar is probably one of the<br>
>> > bigger junks to be moved.<br>
>> > There is already some ongoing development on it, but it seems like the<br>
>> > port still is experimental:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/Experiments-in-porting-exo-" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.<wbr>com/Experiments-in-porting-<wbr>exo-</a><br>
>> to-Gtk3-td46692.html#a46700<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I dont know the current state .. best directly talk to the dev's which<br>
>> > work on thunar and exo, and ask them where you can help.<br>
>> > If you dont have experience with gtk, it probably makes sense to first<br>
>> > move some smaller xfce4 projects to gtk3 to get used to it! ( There<br>
>> used to<br>
>> > be some list of projects to be moved, but I dont know where it can be<br>
>> found<br>
>> > )<br>
>> ><br>
>> > CC to xfce4 dev ... please correct me if I am wrong!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cheers,<br>
>> > Alex<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On 07.02.2017 14:08, Francesco Pasa wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hi all,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I am a student and long time user of XFCE (since about 2007). I'd like<br>
>> to<br>
>> > become a member of the Thunar development team, if possible. I never<br>
>> > contributed to a open source project, so some orientation would be<br>
>> helpful.<br>
>> > To make it concrete:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > - It there a procedure to become a member of the team?<br>
>> > - Is Thunar actively maintained and developed?<br>
>> > - In case, how should I start?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thanks in advance,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Francesco<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:46:01 -0300<br>
From: André Miranda <<a href="mailto:andre42m@gmail.com">andre42m@gmail.com</a>><br>
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xfce4-screenshooter works very well for me. I think you have the same<br>
problem as reported in Bug 9288<br>
<<a href="https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9288" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.xfce.org/<wbr>show_bug.cgi?id=9288</a>>.<br>
I can't reproduce it here, please add more info to the bug, telling the<br>
steps to reproduce, which distro and hardware you're using and, due to its<br>
randomness, what's the approximate rate to produce it (e.g. 1 out 10 tries).<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
André Miranda<br>
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On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Alen Chakarov <<a href="mailto:cakedoer@gmail.com">cakedoer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi, and sorry in advance if this is not somewhere I can give input, but as<br>
> a user and user only, I think it might be a good idea to leave<br>
> xfce4-screenshooter behind. Right now, it's buggy, and I feel like unless<br>
> you wanted to make it usable while porting it to GTK 3, it wouldn't be the<br>
> best use of your time. Although I'm not sure how many people use it,<br>
> perhaps gigolo would be a better place to start? I've attached a couple of<br>
> examples of how xfce4-screenshooter's region capture doesn't really work<br>
> very well (they're supposed to be just white rectangles, but the selection<br>
> outlines tend to get randomly captured or leave artefacts).<br>
><br>
> Alen Chakarov<br>
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:57:41 +0100<br>
From: Roland Kuebert <<a href="mailto:roland@upic.de">roland@upic.de</a>><br>
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Hi André,<br>
<br>
On 09.02.2017 15:46, André Miranda wrote:<br>
> xfce4-screenshooter works very well for me. I think you have the same<br>
> problem as reported in Bug 9288<br>
> <<a href="https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9288" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.xfce.org/<wbr>show_bug.cgi?id=9288</a>>.<br>
> I can't reproduce it here, please add more info to the bug, telling the<br>
> steps to reproduce, which distro and hardware you're using and, due to<br>
> its randomness, what's the approximate rate to produce it (e.g. 1 out 10<br>
> tries).<br>
<br>
+1 for your work on xfce4-screenshooter, I use it regularly. :)<br>
<br>
I've seen these random issues as well but was not aware of the bug<br>
report. I will contribute some information to it so maybe you or someone<br>
else can track it down.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Roland<br>
<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> André Miranda<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Alen Chakarov <<a href="mailto:cakedoer@gmail.com">cakedoer@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cakedoer@gmail.com">cakedoer@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi, and sorry in advance if this is not somewhere I can give input,<br>
> but as a user and user only, I think it might be a good idea to<br>
> leave xfce4-screenshooter behind. Right now, it's buggy, and I feel<br>
> like unless you wanted to make it usable while porting it to GTK 3,<br>
> it wouldn't be the best use of your time. Although I'm not sure how<br>
> many people use it, perhaps gigolo would be a better place to start?<br>
> I've attached a couple of examples of how xfce4-screenshooter's<br>
> region capture doesn't really work very well (they're supposed to be<br>
> just white rectangles, but the selection outlines tend to get<br>
> randomly captured or leave artefacts).<br>
><br>
> Alen Chakarov<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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