Gtk 4.0 is not Gtk 4

OmegaPhil OmegaPhil at
Sun Jul 31 10:06:17 CEST 2016

On 31/07/16 07:33, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Ali Abdallah <aliovx at> wrote:
>> Maybe you have heard already about Gtk 4.0 plan and versioning convention.
>> Xfce depends on Gtk, and whatever the gtk guys do to the toolkit will have a
>> big impact on xfce. The versioning convention by itself it not a big deal (a
>> part that it has no sense at all to change the versioning convention that
>> everybody is able to interpret), what worries me more is the rapid API/ABI
>> breakages rate. It is true that Xfce port to Gtk3 did not happen yet, but I
>> think it is sound to discuss the gtk future plans here, and to share
>> opinions.
>> My overall feeling these days is that I don't trust those guys anymore, and
>> I fell myself demotivated to write gtk code that the gtk devs will make
>> obsolete in a second, with continuous breakage even between minor
>> releases...
> EFL has been suggested in the past by some Xfce devels as an
> alternative to Gtk, but the consensus seemed to be that 'porting' to
> EFL really implied a rewrite of the desktop.

Apparently EFL is a monstrosity:

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