Why design matters

Simon Steinbeiß simon at xfce.org
Sat Jul 25 16:18:51 CEST 2015

Hi Patrik,

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:09:42 +0200
Patrik Bubák <bubapa at privacyrequired.com> wrote:

> Simon,
> below I'm illustrating very quickly examples of what I meant (I hope
> it'll be clear from the screenshots, very quick drafts to support my
> arguments):
> I know you already provided a response to this, it's just I wanted for
> everyone to clearly understand what I meant.
> Next:
> The Telegram label above the panel illustrates the position it should
> keep. Instead, when you insert buttons from the left side for example,
> the label is pushed to the right and does no longer maintain its
> position.

Right, that was pretty much what I thought you'd mean. So you're talking about the xfwm4 titlebar and the xfce4-panel, specifically items in the systray and items with spacers that should be centered in terms of panel-width.
I know that currently neither of that is possible. I already tried to explain the problem with the systray. Maybe with some hacking this could be improved. The other two could also simply go into bugreports that illustrate the desired behavior. FWIW, I don't really have that problem (and I'm not as obsessive anymore about having my window-titles absolutely centered as I was a few years ago ;)) http://i.imgur.com/eSJwaGV.png

So head over to https://bugzilla.xfce.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Xfwm4 and https://bugzilla.xfce.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Xfce4-panel and file your feature requests.

If you can't provide patches for these issues yourself, devs will take a look – when/if time and motivation permits (that's the same with all FOSS projects I've worked with).


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