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Fri May 4 10:37:54 CEST 2012
Le 4 mai 2012 09:00, "Harald Judt" <h.judt at gmx.at> a écrit :
> Am 04.05.2012 02:23, schrieb Matt x:
>> On 05/03/2012 03:19 AM, Maximilien Noal wrote:
>>> 2012/5/2 Maximilien Noal<noal.maximilien at gmail.com>:
>>>> On 05/02/2012 07:59 PM, Raphael Groner wrote:
>>>> You're right I forgot it was written in Python. My bad.
>>> After more testing alacarte-xfce (from the AUR, don't know about the
>>> Xubuntu version) as another reason against starting with it, as some
>>> menu entries were not displayed (like 'orage preferences' in the
>>> settings menu) so I could not move it nor remove it(*). LXMED had the
>>> same problem.
>>> My goal was to remove it from the settings menu and make it appear in
>>> the xfce settings manager (another thing that *both* patched-for-xfce
>>> versions of alacarte can't do). I had to do it manually. It was easy
>>> (and fun, I learned stuff!) in fact, albeit slower than using a GUI.
>> It _is_ fairly easy to do manually. As for whether XFCE gets a menu
>> editor, I don't really care. I've been manually editing my menus ever
>> since I switched to XFCE, instead of getting a patched-for-xfce alacarte
>> I _am_ glad any official xfce menu editors probably won't be forks of or
>> patches to alacarte. Alacarte liked to copy menu entries to several
>> categories for no apparent reason before I stopped using it.
> I have never used Alacarte, but the old XFCE menu editor worked fine.
Taking options away from the user with no appropriate alternatives is very
likely a bad decision. Doing it manually might be ok for small changes, but
it is no fun dealing manually with an XML file. XML files are
human-readable and meant to be processed by machines, it shouldn't be the
other way round.
Bad decision... we went from a homegrown implem of a menu to a fully fd.o
menu-spec compliant implem. I wouldnt call that a bad decision, and given
the amount of contributors Xfce has, well too bad noone got interested in
writing a menu editor. Keep in mind that people work on what interests
them, and for fun.
> That said, I have not used custom menus ever since and usually use the
new (and very good) appfinder, but custom menus certainly have their area
of application, e.g. make you find things fast on a glance, show limited
choices for users that don't have much knowledge with computers,...
Then the launcher perfectly fits that need. Ok, it cant do submenus, but
how many apps do you really need fast access to that cant fit in one or two
If people want so much a menu editor, then it's a perfect project for
someone who wants to contribute on a new project, apparently it'll make
lots of users happy.
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