Xfce4-dev Digest, Vol 102, Issue 2

[Johannes Lips]

Could you give your mails a new subject for every new subject?

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Raphael Groner <raphgro at web.de> wrote:

> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 15:40:07 +0200
> From: Devil505 <devil505linux at gmail.com>
> To: Xfce development list <xfce4-dev at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: Xfce4-dev Digest, Vol 102, Issue 1
> (...)
> > About new features with XFCE 4.10, don't forget there a some nice
> > whishlists there:
> > http://wiki.xfce.org/wish_list
> > http://wiki.xfce.org/plugins_wish_list
>
> Wow. Two very long lists, but without any priorities.
>
> I could not say it better in my last mail:
>
> "Here you can post your feature requests for the panel plugins. There
> is no guarantee that any of them will actually be implemented. Please
> keep the Xfce philosophy in mind and add a small explanation why this
> feature would be useful or a description of the problem it solves."
>
> How is the decision process for "no guarantee" what feature gets
> prioritized?
>
>
> Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 15:00:50 +0200
> From: Nick Schermer <nick at xfce.org>
> To: Xfce development list <xfce4-dev at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: Xfce4-dev Digest, Vol 102, Issue 1
> (...)
> > Anyway, a menu editor is probably a goal for
> > 4.12 anyway.
>
> Considering especially Alacarte or an Xfce editor in general, there are
> more issues to be done for Xfce, not one patch and the other one, all of
> those patches you have to collect from the different distributions. I
> think not more than the GUI of Alacarte can be used for a (new) Xfce
> editor. Alacarte uses gnome-pymenu that seems to be dead for
> development, as well. So, there should be a port to garcon - cause at
> least, to prevent duplication of code for the menu spec. It's quite
> ridiculous that the Gnome project documents that spec online but decided
> to step away from it with Gnome3.
>
> > Don't be a half-informed ass here mister. You obviously have no clue
> > what you're talking about so leave this to the experts please (the
> > mail didn't start with "Devs" in the first place).
>
> Mister, please keep being nice with the user base. Well, I guess you
> don't know me, according to your harsh comment here. I have been to CLT
> 2012 (and already also to ohter events but as a normal user) and
> worked at the Xfce booth there. I talked with a lot of users there,
> most of them said they've moved from Gnome3 to Xfce and are now missing
> their loved features. Those comments included often the request for a
> menu editor. So my question is: How can we communicate to the users
> about promised but delayed features or goals? To name each of those
> requesting users an "half-informed ass" would not make anybody happy,
> believe me.
>
> It was not my intention to start a flame war. I would like to mention
> only my impression about what feature requests are important.
>
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