some quick notes on xfce4-power-manager 0.6.4

[Ali Abdallah]

Mike Massonnet wrote:
> What I was trying to say is that the GtkStatusIcon specifies what it
> can be used for. And for sake of consistency, you must not try to do
> something different, otherwise it wouldn't provide an activate and
> popop-menu signal, but something like in GtkWidget button-press-event
> and button-release-event.
>
>   
Just for information, the current development version of gtk+ provides 
button-press-event and button-release-event.

> Mike
>
>   
Regards,
Ali.

> Le Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:23:58 +0200,
> Jari Rahkonen <jari.rahkonen at pp1.inet.fi> a écrit :
>
>   
>> Mike Massonnet kirjoitti:
>>     
>>> Le Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:13:45 +0200,
>>> Jari Rahkonen <jari.rahkonen at pp1.inet.fi> a écrit :
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Auke Kok kirjoitti:
>>>>         
>>>>> Jari Rahkonen wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Mike Massonnet kirjoitti:
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Le Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:59:43 +0100,
>>>>>>> Ali Abdallah <aliov at xfce.org> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Auke Kok wrote:
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> some notes about xfce4-power-manager -0.6.4:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - double clicking the systray icon should call the preferences
>>>>>>>>> window
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> This is easy to add.
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> The GtkStatusIcon doesn't have a signal to do this easily
>>>>>>> (double-click), so this is out of scope as a standard use of a
>>>>>>> notification icon, instead choose by convention the best action
>>>>>>> for a click. Most apps use this to show/hide the main interface.
>>>>>>> You could just show the preferences dialog, which is the best
>>>>>>> convention imho. For instance, wicd does this. Mail-notification
>>>>>>> lets you choose which action to do like "check up mails", "open
>>>>>>> mail client" or "show preferencse dialog".
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> Wicd actually shows the Connect dialog, not the actual
>>>>>> preferences. I'd rather see preferences as an option in the right
>>>>>> click context menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The left button could maybe show a different menu with options to
>>>>>> suspend and hibernate (if these are enabled in the session
>>>>>> manager settings) and possibly battery information or
>>>>>> statistics. I think g-p-m has something like this.
>>>>>>             
>>>>> very counterintuitive and certainly not what any of the other
>>>>> common apps do. right-click is for a context menu, and you can
>>>>> certainly stuff suspend et al in there, but they are already
>>>>> present in the xfce4-session logout window anyway...
>>>>>           
>>>> I see your point. Don't know about your selection of 'common apps'
>>>> though, as I rarely see more than two or three notification icons
>>>> at a time. Most of the time wicd is the only one filling my tray,
>>>> with the power manager showing up whenever the laptop is running
>>>> on battery power or charging.
>>>>         
>>> I had suggest you take a look at the description of GtkStatusIcon.
>>>       
>> Nothing new since the last time I read it. What's your point?
>>
>>     
>>>>> I've got 4 applications currently sitting in my systray, ALL pop
>>>>> up a window on left-click. ALL pop up a context menu with
>>>>> 'options/preferences, quit, and a few more items on right click.
>>>>>           
>>>> Right, but I still think the right click menu is the correct and
>>>> only place for the options/preferences option. Do any of those
>>>> other apps you see in your tray pop up a *preferences* window on
>>>> left click? I don't think they should, unless frequent fiddling
>>>> with the preferences is expected. I'd say even doing nothing might
>>>> actually be preferable.
>>>>         
>>> The power manager doesn't have anything else than the preferences
>>> dialog to show, so it would be correct to display it. Can we please
>>> stop here.
>>>
>>> Wicd was just a bad example where the main interface looks a lot
>>> like a preferences dialog where you choose the networks you want to
>>> connect to.
>>>       
>> I'm sorry but there's still one point worth laboring: I don't think
>> showing an options dialog on left click is any more consistent or
>> intuitive than doing nothing if your application is a service with no
>> 'main interface' per se. But yeah, it's Ali's baby, so he can do as he
>> likes.
>>
>>     
>>> Mike
>>>       
>> - Jari
>>     
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