some quick notes on xfce4-power-manager 0.6.4

[Mike Massonnet]

What I was trying to say is that the GtkStatusIcon specifies what it
can be used for. And for sake of consistency, you must not try to do
something different, otherwise it wouldn't provide an activate and
popop-menu signal, but something like in GtkWidget button-press-event
and button-release-event.

Mike

Le Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:23:58 +0200,
Jari Rahkonen <jari.rahkonen at pp1.inet.fi> a écrit :

> Mike Massonnet kirjoitti:
> > Le Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:13:45 +0200,
> > Jari Rahkonen <jari.rahkonen at pp1.inet.fi> a écrit :
> > 
> >> Auke Kok kirjoitti:
> >>> Jari Rahkonen wrote:
> >>>> Mike Massonnet kirjoitti:
> >>>>> Le Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:59:43 +0100,
> >>>>> Ali Abdallah <aliov at xfce.org> a écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Auke Kok wrote:
> >>>>>>> some notes about xfce4-power-manager -0.6.4:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - double clicking the systray icon should call the preferences
> >>>>>>> window
> >>>>>> This is easy to add.
> >>>>> The GtkStatusIcon doesn't have a signal to do this easily
> >>>>> (double-click), so this is out of scope as a standard use of a
> >>>>> notification icon, instead choose by convention the best action
> >>>>> for a click. Most apps use this to show/hide the main interface.
> >>>>> You could just show the preferences dialog, which is the best
> >>>>> convention imho. For instance, wicd does this. Mail-notification
> >>>>> lets you choose which action to do like "check up mails", "open
> >>>>> mail client" or "show preferencse dialog".
> >>>> Wicd actually shows the Connect dialog, not the actual
> >>>> preferences. I'd rather see preferences as an option in the right
> >>>> click context menu.
> >>>>
> >>>> The left button could maybe show a different menu with options to
> >>>> suspend and hibernate (if these are enabled in the session
> >>>> manager settings) and possibly battery information or
> >>>> statistics. I think g-p-m has something like this.
> >>> very counterintuitive and certainly not what any of the other
> >>> common apps do. right-click is for a context menu, and you can
> >>> certainly stuff suspend et al in there, but they are already
> >>> present in the xfce4-session logout window anyway...
> >> I see your point. Don't know about your selection of 'common apps'
> >> though, as I rarely see more than two or three notification icons
> >> at a time. Most of the time wicd is the only one filling my tray,
> >> with the power manager showing up whenever the laptop is running
> >> on battery power or charging.
> > 
> > I had suggest you take a look at the description of GtkStatusIcon.
> 
> Nothing new since the last time I read it. What's your point?
> 
> >>> I've got 4 applications currently sitting in my systray, ALL pop
> >>> up a window on left-click. ALL pop up a context menu with
> >>> 'options/preferences, quit, and a few more items on right click.
> >> Right, but I still think the right click menu is the correct and
> >> only place for the options/preferences option. Do any of those
> >> other apps you see in your tray pop up a *preferences* window on
> >> left click? I don't think they should, unless frequent fiddling
> >> with the preferences is expected. I'd say even doing nothing might
> >> actually be preferable.
> > 
> > The power manager doesn't have anything else than the preferences
> > dialog to show, so it would be correct to display it. Can we please
> > stop here.
> > 
> > Wicd was just a bad example where the main interface looks a lot
> > like a preferences dialog where you choose the networks you want to
> > connect to.
> 
> I'm sorry but there's still one point worth laboring: I don't think
> showing an options dialog on left click is any more consistent or
> intuitive than doing nothing if your application is a service with no
> 'main interface' per se. But yeah, it's Ali's baby, so he can do as he
> likes.
> 
> > Mike
> 
> - Jari