Xarchiver 0.5.0rc1 released

[Christian Dywan]

Am Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:18:23 +0100
schrieb "Giuseppe Torelli" <colossus73 at gmail.com>:

> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Christoph Wickert
> <christoph.wickert at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > ... but unfortunately introduced many new bugs when you implemented
> > the tabs. I already downgraded XA in Fedora once because of
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=230154
> 
> The one quoted in the bug was a development version. It's expected by
> such release to be unstable and so to crash often.
> You don't know this Christoph?
> 
> > and I don't want to do this again. I will update the package as
> > soon as 0.5.0 becomes stable, but at the moment IMHO there is no
> > usable version: r28502 is crashing all the time and r27962 that you
> > recommend does not crash, but it does not extract files ether and
> > instead displays an error message.
> 
> It doesn't crash on my system, I can't be aware of bugs which don't
> occur can I?

I know very much how painful it is to cope with errors that don't occur
on your own system, I can sing songs about it. Still, you have to find
a way to deal with it, even if the only way is to make changes that
only someone else can verify and test for you.

Incidentally XArchiver is also unstable on my system, ie. it either
crashes or just does nothing at all depending on what I do. I don't
have the time for debugging, so I'm using my console. I'm sure
Chirstoph and maybe others will gladly try to help you there.

> >> Also Xarchiver is FULLY developed,
> > IMO 'fully developed' means that there is a stable release where
> > all the features work as expected. Also with annoyances like bug
> > 4535 I would not call an app 'fully developed'.
> 
> IMO "fully developed" means that the developers are constantly working
> at it, by adding new features or fixing the bugs that occurs on their
> system.
> 
> > I'd appreciate if you focus on stability instead of new features. I
> > can send more backtraces and bugs of both r27962 and latest svn,
> > but I first want to wait if your are going to close my reports
> > INVALID again.
> >
> > Please don't take this as a flame. I see much has been done in svn
> > lately, but as long as XA is crashing all the time I have no other
> > option but to stick with the old version in Fedora.
> 
> >From the way you're repling you are already flaming Christoph. If you
> want stability, contribute to the code instead of speaking only, ok?

Please try to remain on an objective level. Clearly "developed" is an
ambiguous term. If features are being added to XArchiver for me this
means it is in an unstable phase of development, regardless of
potential new bugs or regressions. If you stop adding features or
concentrate on not doing major changes, that's stabilizing, and that's
where everybody should be testing if the functionality is there and
look for, debug and fix problems. And in fact, I don't think
contriubtions can only come in code form, I personally am glad to have
an awesome little cummunity of people who test, report, email, address
me on IRC, or even talk to me on a conference. I can't imagine Cristoph
intended to do harm by raising major problems he experienced.

ciao,
    Christian