[semi-off] Xfld / .deb packages?

[Brian J. Tarricone]

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Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>File/launcher icons: popular feature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yep, we noticed that for beta1, 'File/launcher' icons should be the
>>>>>>default, as that's about the most often requested feature. Will
>>>>>>hopefully be fixed for beta2 if Brian agrees.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't, as it turns out.  If distro packagers want to, they can feel
>>>>>free to patch the source - I believe it's a one-line change each to the
>>>>>MCS plugin and to xfce-desktop-settings.c.
>>>>
>>>>It's about sane defaults, not what distributions do. There's already a 
>>>>configure check for thunar-vfs. So if thunar-vfs is found, use launcher 
>>>>icons as default, otherwise no icons or window icons.
>>
>>That's even worse.  Now the default depends on whether or not a
>>particular library is found?  I don't think so.
> 
> 
> I honestly fail to see your point... look, we're telling people that 4.4
> finally provides desktop icons - which means file/launcher icons to
> 99.9% of the users, and window icons to 0.1% = Joe :-) - so people will
> most probably expect (since that's a long awaited feature) that they can
> now put icons on the desktop... fine... so they install xfce 4.4 and
> launch it, just to notice that they cannot put icons on the desktop.
> Some people will be smart enough to guess that this is just a bad
> default setting and try to look up the button to change this, but most
> other people will be disappointed/confused and will need to google/ask
> for a solution, or just start complaining that it doesn't work as
> advertised. It's all about sane defaults...
> 
> And c'mon, "default depends on whether or not a particular library is
> found" is really a lame excuse for <insert your reason here>. I.e., the
> default Xfce session also depends on whether or not all xfce components
> are installed (simply because xfce4-panel cannot be run if xfce4-panel
> is not installed, for example), and did the xfce4-session maintainer
> complain about this?

Fine, whatever.  I honestly can't make myself care at this point.

	-b

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