xfce roadmap

daniele favara danjele at gmail.com
Fri Dec 23 19:20:20 CET 2005


On 12/23/05, Oblio Oblio <apa.chioara at gmail.com> wrote:
> I know it's generally not a good idea to bring up such ideas, but have
> you heard of Xubuntu? Your efforts would be much better spent over
> there. See here: wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu .
> They don't have a Live CD AFAIK, so you'd be in for  a job opening :)
> . And the manpower and expertise would be more than welcome.
> Cheers!

Ubuntu uses casper i don't, an xubuntu livecd will be an ubuntu live
with an X i feel :).



> On 12/23/05, daniele favara <danjele at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  would say, first of all, thanks for developing the cool xfce DM.
> >
> > i choose xfce4 as the dm of my project for many reasons, and mainly
> > because it's just perfect for a live cd.
> >
> > Now that the "core" stuff is almost done i would start working to make
> > the whole livecd more user friendly as possible, but i need to know
> > what to put on my todo list and with what priority.
> >
> > 1) desktop icons
> >
> > Someone told me that xfce4 devels don't like them, i personally don't
> > need them but an user that boot for the first time in xfce4 will be
> > lost i think.
> >
> > I don't like for example the kde and gnome idea of using the Desktop
> > as the user home ... that's windows i think :). GNU/Linux has $HOME.
> > So with desktop icons i don't mean $HOME/Desktop stuff, and i don't
> > mean nether application icons ... there is the menu, even if in some
> > cases it can be useful to have them.
> >
> > I mean desktop icons for devices.
> >
> > In my project i was using an ivman plugin that when a new device is
> > plugged (firewire|usb|camera for ex.) a new icon is added to the root
> > window, that's done using an hacked xtdesktop.
> >
> > Then i found the cool notification-daemon, that can even show messages
> > communicating with hal and d-bus.
> >
> > So i  wrote a notify.py script to use with ivman.
> >
> > - the user plugs the device
> > - hal find it
> > - ivam acts and run:
> >  - ivmanicons (to draw the desktop icon)
> >  - notify.py (to notify to user what's happening )
> >     -  popup message saying a new dev has been plugged + mount point
> >     -  thunar launched on mount point
> >
> > then i discovered hal-device-manager has most of the code neded to
> > write a python volume manager ... and i did it.
> >
> > i integrated notify.py and i'll start soon to let the user to define
> > the rules from an xml file as udev (and ivman)  , at the moment the
> > rules and actions are hard coded.
> >
> > As the desktop icons are an important point here i would know if xfce
> > will draw them and how. If it will i'll stop working on that hacked
> > xtdesktop and i'll concentrate on other stuff.
> >
> > 2) Xfedesktop and the root window
> >
> > i really love xfce4 but let me say ... I hate xfdesktop, esetroot is a
> > small app and can control the root window much better.
> >
> > What are your plans about this ?
> >
> > 3) Thunar
> >
> > the best fm manager i've ever tried out, and it's still under development.
> > few Questions about thunar:
> >
> > - will it integrate a CTRL+/ to browse the paths as rox ?
> > - will it integrate a CTRL+! to run apps as rox ?
> > - will it (u)mount even devices ? and will it even p(u)mount ?
> >
> > 4) Xfmedia
> >
> > for a volume manager it would be really nice to play directly a dvd or
> > audio-cd with xfmedia, i didn't find any option to do this.
> >
> > - will it be possible ?
> >
> >
> > my project is really new, but i've already had some good results, i
> > would continue using xfce4 as dm, to see it improving and help where i
> > can.
> >
> > these are some links ... i'm waiting that ibiblio sets up the VHOST,
> > and i'm remaking the whole site:
> >
> > http://dsslive.org [at the moment not working]
> > http://dss.berlios.de/flat/ [the old one]
> > http://www.dsslive.org.test.ibiblio.org/mediawiki/ [the new one]
> >
> > and here a screenshot:
> >
> > http://www.dsslive.org.test.ibiblio.org/mediawiki/images/Dsslive-desktop.png
> >
> >
> > ciao
> >
> > df
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