4.4 ETA?

[Brian J. Tarricone]

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On 12/5/2005 1:12 PM, Jani Monoses wrote:

>>Yes.  "Pretty stable" != "releaseable".
> 
> Then s/pretty// and equality holds. It is very unlikely that xfce 4.4
> components will reach stability at the same time. Release happens when
> all are release-ready so by this definition at least one will be release
> ready while xfce 4.4 is still unreleased. So picking such a component
> may be using unreleased xfce' but will be good enough for people who
> don't care about version numbers.

You're missing the important point that a large part of the stability
work occurs during the beta and RC cycle, which occurs simultaneously
for all components as we gear up for the point-oh release.  It's not a
matter of version numbers; it's a matter of not knowing whether or not
there are bugs until more formal, extensive testing is done.

> The target user is not one who picks only based on his taste, but
> considers hw constraints too. The main goal of xubuntu is to allow older
> hardware run a non-spartan DE. It is not at all about mocking gnome or
> kde. And ubuntu with xfce packages installed _is_ more or less Xubuntu.
> So the support abilities and practices of ubuntu all transfer to
> xubuntu. And it will provide xfce as a whole by default as I already
> stated it twice. Not chosing xfburn based on it not being ready is the
> only mod I mentioned so far.

"Xfce with some components swapped out" != "Xfce".
"Mixed development and stable Xfce components" != "Xfce".

If these two points aren't followed, you are not releasing a distro with
"Xfce as a whole by default".  For non-Xfce-core apps such as xfburn,
you of course have to use your own judgement as to whether or not it's
ready.  I'm only talking about the core here.

	-brian

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