xfdesktop menu drag and drop?

Brian J. Tarricone bjt23 at cornell.edu
Tue Jul 20 18:06:24 CEST 2004

that's funny, actually, as i'd forgotten it was even there.  i'd rather 
not remove it, as i'm going to add DnD support to the panel once i can 
figure out how.  also, i'd like menueditor to be able to receive dropped 
items from the menu (so people can create custom menus using stuff from 
the autogenerated menu, which you can't see in menueditor).  after this 
is done, it will most definitely be useful.  i don't see how it's 
confusing, as there's certainly precedent for DnD from a menu.


On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Olivier wrote:

> Hi Brian,
> I think the DnD from xfdesktop menu should be removed, it's useless
> (Drag to what?) and very confusing. I keep draging items instead of
> selecting them. 
> Please disable that feature.
> Thanks,
> Olivier.
> On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 11:17, Josh Howard wrote:
> > "Brian J. Tarricone" <bjt23 at cornell.edu> writes:
> > 
> > > huh?  the first obvious one is the windows start menu.  IIRC, the kde 
> > > menu and gnome menu supports DnD as well.
> > 
> > Start menu and right clicking on the desktop are two very different
> > things. I consider the start menu much more akin to the panel.
> > MacOS (X), OS/2, Windows, BeOS, come to mind as ones where this is
> > also true. I'm pretty sure the last time I used QNX, I didn't notice
> > this feature.
> > I don't know enough about KDE to say whether or not it does this, but
> > firing up nautilus while writing this e-mail shows that it does not
> > allow dragging.
> > 
> > > DnD for menus is a little different.  if you are the type of person who 
> > > presses the button, moves it around on the menu, and then releases it, 
> > > you'll never notice that the menu supports DnD.  to activate the DnD, 
> > > you have to click-release, then move the mouse to the item, then click 
> > > again, and drag.  that sounds pretty normal to me.
> > 
> > Right... but I'm not. I've had it misfire quite often. It's not a
> > major irritation, but it goes against what I expect desktop menus to
> > do. If it were another mouse button, aside from the primary mouse
> > button (left for right handed users, I suppose.) I wouldn't have it
> > dragging all the time and making me wonder why my xterm is taking so
> > long to load, when in fact it was because I just accidentally dragged
> > it instead of clicking properly. I guess I'm sloppy with my use of
> > the mouse, but all of the UIs I'm used to have been forgiving of this.
> > 
> > 
> > > there's certainly a precedent for this, and it doesn't change the normal 
> > > menu behaviour unless you mouse somewhat ineptly.  (hmm, can you use 
> > > 'mouse' as a verb...?)
> > 
> > Well, I guess I'm inept at mouse usage. Be that as it may, most menus
> > in UIs are happy with this.

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