usability in panel and xffm: pre-selected texts

edscott wilson garcia edscott at
Sun Jun 29 02:51:25 CEST 2003

On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 08:40, Bernhard Walle wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 at 08:16 (-0500), edscott wilson garcia wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 04:34, Bernhard Walle wrote:
> > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 at 15:42 (+0200), Bernhard Walle wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I recognized that there are some cases of pre-selected (or should I call
> > > > it pre-marked) texts. One case is the "Add starter" dialog of the panel, 
> > > > one other the "Go to" dialog in xffm.
> > > 
> > > I saw now there's a inconsitency: The dialog to add a new icon on the
> > > panel does not pre-select anything but the (similar-looking) dialog to
> > > add a menu entry in a panel-submenu. 
> > > 
> > > Because the dialogs are very similar I don't think that it is a good
> > > idea to have a different behaviour. I would prefer to not pre-select the
> > > position in the second dialog.
> > 
> > I like the way the mozilla "location" entry/combo works (with a limited
> > history depending on autocompletion) and would like to see the xfce4
> > entry/combo's work that way. But this might not solve the issue with the
> > cut'n'paste. What do you think?
> Hm, it depends on the use. For the "Go to" line of xffm it would be a
> good idea, but not in every combobox.

Yea. It something to think about for a few days.

> But I think this has nothing to do with pre-selecting texts. Even
> Mozilla on Unix has turned this off by default (there is a option for
> prefs.js to turn this on in the locatin bar). Not so Mozilla on MS
> Windows.

It does some selecting on the uncompleted portion of the word, but only
after you start typing, so I don't think it interferes with the
cut'n'paste business.

> And even in the dialog I mentioned it makes no sense for me. Why marking
> the position number in a spinbox? The normal way to use this widgets is
> to click on the up/down arrows or to use the cursor keys. So it makes no
> sense for me. And it's only in the panel-submenu dialog, not in the
> add-starter-to-panel dialog. 

It's most probably an oversight.

> It's annoying for me because if I add a program I search a suitable icon
> in another application and copy the filename but the pre-selection
> destroys my selection. (And much applications support only primary X
> selection not X clipboard.)
> And because in the one dialog it's pre selected in the other not I think
> at least it should be uniform, what do you think? And who is responsible
> for the panel? Oliver?

Jasper is. But he is in some pristine beach in Tahiti for some days, far
away from any ISP, surrounded by lovely women. :-)



> Regards,
> Bernhard

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