andrzejr at xfce.org
Mon Oct 21 18:51:45 CEST 2019
I would not like to see any part of Xfce rely, use or even endorse CSD.
Please, just scrap these plans. Honestly, it's a bit of a shock, I
though the consensus was we stand by our users.
Definitely Scenario 4 from me.
If a third party application requests that - fine, display it without
the title bar. But given the split in the community and strong opinions
surrounding this topic, even that should be left to the user.
On 21/10/2019 15:18, jEsuSdA 8) wrote:
> I just read this piece of news:
> Where we can read the new plans to add CSD to XFCE.
> I also read https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.16/roadmap/general_ui/csd
> But I still no understanding the actual benefits of switching to CSD
> What are the benefits of migrating to CSD?
> I ask this cause In my opinion, mixing normal and CSD is a pain. There
> is no way to have a uniform experience and appearance when using
> almost tall GTK themes but the awful Adwaita and window composition
> like Compiz, Compton, etc. and I had to make some tricks to avoid some
> CSD effects.
> In my opinion, HeaderBars are a non-sense. You only have a good
> desktop experience when you only use CSD+HeaderBars apps, which is
> impossible cause a normal user uses a lot of applications that does
> not follow these UI Guidelines. Also a normal user uses QT
> applications inside GTK environments. At least you have no plans to
> use HeaderBar, which is good news.
> In the screenshots we can see at
> https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.16/roadmap/general_ui/csd there are
> some cases we can see how the XFCE consistency breaks:
> - If you configures XFWM to not showing the icon in the window border,
> when using CSD the icon could appears in left-top corners.
> - The window title border size is not the same in CSD windows and
> Non-CSD ones.
> - You can minimize, roll, maximize and close the non-CSS windows, but
> you only can close the CSD ones.
> - What if the XFWM is configured to not using composition (so windows
> have no shadows) and CSD windows forces shadows?
> - And, what if you are using a configuration of composition with
> shadows and CSD have shadows too? (I use compton and I have to tweak
> the CSS theme to avoid CSD shadows, cause, if not all the CSD windows
> have 2 shadows)
> I’m a bit worried about the new CSD implementation. So, please, help
> us to understand why this is preferable.
> Thanks a lot!
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