Xfce Digest, Vol 189, Issue 18
Jean-Philippe Combe
jphcombe at gmail.com
Wed Aug 28 13:51:52 CEST 2019
Le mar. 27 août 2019 à 12:00, <xfce-request at xfce.org> a écrit :
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> 1. Binaries for Debian & better support for multi monitors ?
> (Jean-Philippe Combe)
> 2. Re: Binaries for Debian & better support for multi monitors ?
> (houghi)
> 3. Re: Binaries for Debian & better support for multi monitors ?
> (Ralf Mardorf)
> 4. Re: Binaries for Debian & better support for multi monitors ?
> (Kai-Martin Knaak)
> 5. Re: Problem with xfce4-screenshooter (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 13:05:52 +0200
> From: Jean-Philippe Combe <jphcombe at gmail.com>
> To: xfce at xfce.org
> Subject: Binaries for Debian & better support for multi monitors ?
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> Hello everyone,
>
> Could somebody tell me where can I find binaries for XFCE 4.14 for
> Debian Linux ? (I searched unsuccessfully) because I would replace my
> Xubuntu by a Debian.
>
> Also, does XFCE 4.14 has an improved support for multi monitors that
> has the version of XFCE in Xubuntu 18.04 ?
>
> Thanks
> Janfi
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 15:37:34 +0200
> From: houghi <houghi at houghi.org>
> To: Xfce general discussion list <xfce at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: Binaries for Debian & better support for multi monitors ?
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> On 2019-08-26 13:05, Jean-Philippe Combe wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Could somebody tell me where can I find binaries for XFCE 4.14 for
> > Debian Linux ? (I searched unsuccessfully) because I would replace my
> > Xubuntu by a Debian.
> >
> > Also, does XFCE 4.14 has an improved support for multi monitors that
> > has the version of XFCE in Xubuntu 18.04 ?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Janfi
>
> I personally just use the official NVidia drivers and do the settings
> with nvidia-settings as root.
> That is regarless of desktop or distro and has been working since 15+
> years over severald distro's and desktops.
>
> houghi
>
>Thanks for reply, but my computer has an ATI graphic card.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 16:16:01 +0200
> From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>
> To: xfce at xfce.org
> Subject: Re: Binaries for Debian & better support for multi monitors ?
> Message-ID: <20190826161601.3fb1e1e1 at archlinux>
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> >On 2019-08-26 13:05, Jean-Philippe Combe wrote:
> >> Also, does XFCE 4.14 has an improved support for multi monitors that
> >> has the version of XFCE in Xubuntu 18.04 ?
>
> Hi,
>
> you expect others to do your homework. Regarding
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/xfce4 Xfce4 for Ubuntu flavours such
> as Xubuntu, is version 4.12.4.
>
> You also asked a vague question about multi-monitor support.
>
> Could you at least describe what kind of "improved" multi monitor
> support you expect? Some special Ubuntu GUI, also available for Debian?
> What kind of multi-monitor setup? Dual, IOW 2 monitors or more than 2
> monitors? It makes a big difference, since 2 monitors are no issue at
> all.
>
> For a dual-head setup xrandr from command line is easy to use
> for everything you could imagine, at least when using X based
> environments, but I guess Wayland is anyway no concern when using Xfce4.
>
> I'm using xrandr to easily make even the most freakish combinations of
> a LCD and a CRT monitor available, connected to a single Intel graphics
> by HDMI and VGA (D-sub), completely unrelated to the used WM and/or DE.
>
> It's not unimportant to know what kind of monitors you want to attach
> to what kind of a single or multiple graphics and what you consider
> "improved support" to be.
>
> Any modern major Linux distro (most likely FreeBSD, too) provides
> multi-monitor support. What is "improved" for?
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
> --
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Hello Ralf,
Thanks to reply.
I use a 27'' Viewsonic, actually VGA but can be HDMI and DVI,
a 24'' Acer ADMI but can be VGA
a 24 '' SAMSUNG VGA
When I move icons to another monitor or even sometimes on the same, XFCE logout.
It's not homework, it's a trading's robot developpement station.
I plan to move to Debian, I use severals virtual machines Debian 9/64
and Windows 10/64 and 7/32
I use Xfce for many many years and would not to change, maybe
replacing ATI video cards with NVIDIA may help.
For me improved means "setting once and forget"
Janfi
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 19:53:11 +0200
> From: Kai-Martin Knaak <knaak at iqo.uni-hannover.de>
> To: xfce at xfce.org
> Subject: Re: Binaries for Debian & better support for multi monitors ?
> Message-ID: <20190826195311.6879e156 at smtp.uni-hannover.de>
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> On 26. August 2019 Jean-Philippe Combe <jphcombe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Could somebody tell me where can I find binaries for XFCE 4.14 for
> > Debian Linux ? (I searched unsuccessfully) because I would replace my
> > Xubuntu by a Debian.
>
> In Debian new versions of packages are fairly well scrutinized. They go
> through a number of repositories. The procedure is like:
> (experimental) → unstable → testing → stable → oldstable → oldoldstable
>
> Most packages enter the pipeline at unstable/sid. See the Wikipedia
> article on Debian for the supposed meaning of the different
> repositories.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian
>
> You may search Debian repositories at this URL:
> https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages
>
> XFCE 4.14 is very fresh. As to be expected, it is available in unstable
> only:
> https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&arch=amd64&searchon=names&keywords=xfce4
>
> You can see the history of this package on its Debian developer page:
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/xfce4
> The top of the page gives reasons why this specific package is not
> available in testing, yet. There is no migration to "stable" on the
> developer page. This is because at some point the whole of testing is
> declared to be the new "stable". Last time this release happened, was
> about six weeks ago. Unlike most other distros Debian does not release
> at predefined calendar dates. They release when "testing" does not
> contain any release critical error. Lately, the release cycle tended to
> be about 25 months.
>
>
> > Also, does XFCE 4.14 has an improved support for multi monitors that
> > has the version of XFCE in Xubuntu 18.04 ?
>
> No idea.
> I'd look up the release notes of XFCE 4.14 .
>
> ---<)kaimartin(>---
>
Hello Kai-Martin,
I know Debian for years but didn't that page
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/xfce4
Thanks, it is Migrated to testing now.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 14:42:33 -0400
> From: "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" <renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org>
> To: xfce at xfce.org
> Subject: Re: Problem with xfce4-screenshooter
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> On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 16:28:16 +0200
> Tomas Schertel <tschertel at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > I can select a region, bus since the screen is not grey-ish but black I
> > > cannot see what I am selecting ;-3(
>
> > Of course. I understand that. It's still a bug.
> > But maybe it's not a bug on xfce4-screenshooter itself. Maybe something
> > related to the compositor.
>
> Could it be linked to my setup not using the composite extension ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ron.
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> They can only give you answers.
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