XFCE 4.12 - F24 - Window Maximise behaviour

Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton at gmail.com
Tue Dec 6 10:04:34 CET 2016

Hi Oliver,

On 06/12/2016 09:54, Olivier Fourdan wrote:
> Hi
> On 6 December 2016 at 09:42, Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com
> <mailto:lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     Recently upgrading from Fedora 23 to 24 (so both XFCE 4.12 (note:
>     this wasn't an actual softeare upgrade. but a fresh install as I
>     also installed a new hard disk)).
>     I noticed (a change in default behaviour of 'maximised' windows,
>     where essentially upon maximising the window frame is removed
>     (including top bar with title etc.
>     I assume this is similar to Gnome 3 behaviour.
>     Now while this works well for 'gnome-oriented' applications (i.e.
>     ones which have standard max/un-maximise and close buttons within
>     the window space), as you get more screen estate and no redundant
>     functionality with the window title + functionality directly
>     provided by the application. Yet it can prove to be problematic for
>     'normal' applications, especially when wanting to quickly
>     un-maximise and possibly move the window.
>     What I'm wondering is if there is any trick to have best of both
>     worlds, i.e. detect 'gnome-oriented' applications and non, and
>     maximise accordingly, therefore maintaining the typical window frame.
> Can you give some example of application where you see this?

Essentially all applications maximise without the title and window 
border. Notice that I also have composite disabled. Not sure if that is 
also relevant.

> For server side decorations, an application /can/ ask for the title bar
> to be hidden when maximized, but those who don't will still have the
> title bar visible when maximized (there is also an option for force the
> title bar to be hidden when maximized for server side decorations in
> xfwm4-tweak-settings)
> For client side decorations (CSD for short), the application itself is
> in charge and the window manager won't draw the title bar or resize
> handles, so there is not much it can do there.

Can you please explain what you mean with 'server-' vs. 'client-' side 

> Either way, no change in xfce wrt this.
> Cheers,
> Olivier
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