Getting to mount

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at
Sat Jul 26 15:01:41 CEST 2014

On Sat, 2014-07-26 at 13:03 +0200, Maximilien Noal wrote:
> Le samedi 26 juillet 2014, 11:15:30 Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
> > People using "green drives" shouldn't install GVFS, since it will kill
> > the drives.
> Gvfs never killed my green drives and never restarted them all the time.
> Plus, if that bug was so widespread it would have been fixed long ago.
> So please stop spreading misinformation and insuilting GVFS' developpers by 
> saying that it is "broken software".  It is *way* off-topic and 
> unconstructive.
> To respond to the OP :
> You might not have one of GVFS' backends : for instance gvfs-afc (on 
> ubuntu/Debian it's gvfs-backends to install all of them).

It's the truth, I'm not spreading misinformation. You should run
smartctl several times during a session and check it yourself, then
you'll notice that drives will spin up, right after they spin down. It's
an issue many people with "green" drives experience since years. The
first thought was, that it's a bug by those drives, but it isn't. I get
in contact with a vendor and I also checked what from Linux userspace
wakes up the drives, on my installs it was GVFS, the KDE thingy does the
same, everything is ok, if this software isn't installed. My WD drive
spins down after 30 minutes and very soon it spins p, assumed GVFS is
installed. There are tons of how to disable the automatic spin down, but
that isn't a solution if you want your drive to spin down and assumed
it's behind an USB controller you unlikely can disable this option.

You don't know what you're talking about and spread information that
could shorten the life of external HDDs, that fulfil the EU Regulation.

Do your homework! can be used to disable the spin
downs, but than your drive isn't a "green" drive anymore ad does offend
the EU Regulation.

For drives where you can't disable it, you could touch the drive, before
it spins down, so it keeps awake.

Check ID#4 Start_Stop_Count and/or ID#193 Load_Cycle_Count using
smartctl several times during a session and you will see that an
external "green" drive will spin down and up very often.


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