[gtk-xfce-engine] Gtk+3 Themes

Genghis Khan genghiskhan at gmx.ca
Wed Jul 17 08:43:51 CEST 2013

Thank you for the references.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:03:53 +0530
Satyajit Sahoo <satyajit.happy at gmail.com> wrote:

> GTK 3.4 is rather outdated. And I highly doubt that anyone will port
> themes to GTK 3.4.

Yes, indeed; For the most part, the GTK3 themes I referred to and of the
Shimmer Project http://shimmerproject.org do work well with version 3.4.

> GTK3 themes seem to break every release, even though the amount of
> breakage has been greatly reduced. So it's unlikely that anyone will
> want to port to an older GTK3 version.

Of course not. I have pointed out the version of GTK3 I use in the
hope to get a "shout out" from someone that has the current Xfce themes
for GTK3 working properly with latter version of GTK3.

I want to check if there are any official news in this matter. If I
will get a negative or no respond, I will ask the Shimmer Project, if
they would be willing and gracious enough, to work on ports for
official Xfce themes, in coordination with the Xfce team, if needed.

> If you use Xubuntu, the default themes Greybird, Bluebird and
> Albatross already support GTK3. And in the upcoming Ubuntu version,
> they have 2 more GTK3 themes, namely Numix and Orion.

According to the names you wrote, I assume you referred to the Shimmer
Project; I like Numix the most, yet it has an nontraditional look[1] a
fixed gtk+ widget appearance which I think is better appropriate to be
determined by the user in theme settings dialog, not in a theme itself.

[1] e.g. the trend of having the menubar widget in a different color,
usually dark) than the rest of the widget in order to fit to a dark
Xfwm4 theme

[2] absence of icons on buttons or menus, void arrows in scroll bars
and other things

[Side Note] I use Numix with this color scheme: gtk_color_scheme =

> And about lightweight, GTK3 is heavier than GTK2, and themes aren't
> that slow for you to notice a difference.

This is true to modern machines. To test performances of themes I use
a very weak and old machine with 1.6GHz (CPU), 250MB (RAM) and a weak
graphics card.

Xfce themes have no competition in being smooth, lightweight and

> On 16-Jul-2013 5:54 PM, "Genghis Khan" <genghiskhan at gmx.ca> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Are there new developments or news concerning to GTK+3 ports of the
> > current GTK+2 themes of Xfce?
> >
> > I have wondered when will there be updates for Gtk+3 theme sets of
> > Xfce, in general, and of Xfce-basic, Xfce-kde2 and Xfce-smooth, in
> > particular.
> >
> > In the meantime, I would be glad to have a reference to a theme of
> > GTK+2/3 that has a simple interface and is lightweight, like Xfce.
> >
> > For instance, I would not want themes like Siva or FlatStudio, as
> > they are more complex and are taking longer time and graphic/video
> > resources (i.e. not lightweight) than Xfce themes.
> > http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Siva+Flat+1.3.0?content=156879
> > http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/FlatStudio?content=154296
> >
> > I use gtk+3 version 3.4.4.
> >
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