Hate panel interaction with window managers. Way to nullify it?

[killermoehre]

Am 25.11.2012 06:16, schrieb Paul Johnson:
> Here's my angry rant about the way panels interact with window
> managers in XFCE4. Can you tell me how to fix? If it matters, I'm
> running Debian Wheezy with XFCE4 packages,  xfce4-panel  4.8.6   and
> the window manager at the moment is compiz 0.8.4.
> 
> Basically, I don't want the window in which the panel resides to be
> treated as special and protected. I don't want the panel always on
> top, it should not block window movement or resizing in anyway.
> 
> I often want to hide part of the panel, but look at the rest. I like
> to drag windows "off the screen" so I'm only looking at one section of
> the window. I want them to go on top of the part of the panel they
> overlap, but let me look at the rest of the panel, which is not
> covered.
> 
> I want to be able to resize a window to go over a part of the panel,
> but leave the rest of the panel showing.
> 
> I don't mind if windows maximize on top of the panel. I wish they would.
> 
> I want to be able to raise a panel to the top when I want to see it,
> otherwise leave it below, peeking out. Right now, I can see one half
> of a panel (I dragged a window over it). and there appears to be no
> way to raise the panel to the top of the screen. It is necessary to
> move all of the windows off the panel.  I've have difficulty believing
> that anybody likes it this way, unless one is using a cell phone.
> 
> In Compiz, I have found some settings that allow me to move windows
> over the top of the panel, but I can't find settings that let me
> resize windows over the panel.  I can "Alt-drag" a window over a
> panel, but cannot "edge drag" to resize over the panel. The drag
> motion is "blocked" at the panel's edge.
> 
> The only "workaround" I've found is the panel preferences setting
> "automatically show and hide panel", but I don't want that. It makes
> the panel an all or nothing thing.  Why can't I be allowed to see the
> clock on the top right part of the panel without having the whole rest
> of the panel imposed over the top of the screen?
> 
> In the early days of Gnome, before they became so paternalistic, I
> recall a panel setting similar to "treat as ordinary window".  Or am I
> dreaming of a  happier day that never truly existed :) I am not sure.
> 
> pj
> 

Can compiz apply window settings to new windows? If yes, just change the
window type from panel to application. If compiz can't do that, you can
use devilspie.

Regards

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