Rodent and this list

[Bela Markus]

Guys,

I was happy to see the Rodent announcement, otherwise I would have 
missed it for Tiny Core Linux. However, any further disccusion is a SPAM 
for me, as it has nothing to do with Xfce. It is not personal, not 
related to Rodent/xffm, just Internet ethic.

Rodent files are hosted at SourceForge. They are offering mailing lists 
free for projects. Better to move a project list to a dedicated one 
instead of hijacking another and making emotional mails and trolling.

Regrds... Béla

2011.10.04. 1:23 keltezéssel, Edscott Wilson Garcia írta:
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> First of all, allow me to extend my humble appreciation to all those who
> are interested in Rodent and show this interest by following any
> threads which clearly has the word "Rodent" in the subject line.
>
> Anyways, let's set a few points.
>
> Mr. Perez says:
>
>> I don't want to sound rude or offensive, but I didn't subscribe to
>> rodent or xffm mailing list (in fact, I just don't like them at all and
>> could never use them, not that they are bad per se, they're just not for
>> me).
> If Mr. Perez or anyone else have a personal opinion (be it good or bad)
> or just want to be rude or offensive (even if you do not intend to),
> send it to whomever it may concern, not to the list. That's just a
> courtesy to make filtering easier.
>
>> People on this list /might/ be interested by those annoucements, but
>> some are definitely not (well, at least me). As I'm interested in Xfce
>> stuff, I'd like to keep subscribed to xfce list, so I'm kindly asking
>> that you open a mailing list for rodent and post the releases there (and
>> do an announcement here so people interested can subscribe).
>>
> I would like to take this opportunity to remind those who only wish to
> get Xfce announcements to subscribe to the xfce-announce list. This list
> is for "general discusion". A bit of netiquette is always in order, like
> keeping to the subject thread.
>
> On a different post, Nick replies to:
>
>>> I think that Rodent now brings enough news to justify the creation of
> a new
>>>> dedicated mailing-list in order to follow its development, don't
> you think ?
>
> with:
>
>> I agree. Xffm and Xfce went in separate ways, better to have a
>> dedicated list for the discussions and release announcements.
> To which I responded (of list, of course):
>
> Sorry Nick, you're mistaken. Xffm and Xfce *packagers* went different
> ways, which is very different from *users*. Xffm was built from this
> list and about half Rodent users are here. So announcements remain a
> topic. Besides, there's a Rodent forum at sourceforge for non-xfce
> related users and development discussion.
>
> Now I add:
>
> Xfce went from being a one-man show to a collaborative effort because of
> this list. Can anybody not explain the chronic shortage of developer
> contribution to the Xfce project when you get this kind of public
> humiliation on the list.
>
> Finally, I question. What are they afraid of?  Afraid Rodent may prove
> better and mark a return of Xffm? Come on! If Xfce users wanted to
> follow the holy words of software packagers, they'd be using micro$oft.
> Maybe these posts indicate that Rodent (aka xffm) has become a serious
> threat?
>
>> Again, I have not intention to be rude or anything (but as this mail can
>> sound like it, I'm adding a disclaimer).
>>
>> Thanks anyway for your work.
> And I thank each and every person who collaborates in this great
> enterprise called free software, even those who are destructive even
> though they have no intention to be so.
>
> Please bear in mind that Rodent is provided as is, with no warranty, in
> the hope that it may be as useful to you as it is to me.
>
>
>
> - -- 
>
> cheers!
>
> Edscott
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