Network Manager or equivalent - where should I be able to find it?

[Al Bogner]

Am Mo, 21 Mär 2011 10:38:18 CET schrieb Chris G:

> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:26:06AM +0100, Al Bogner wrote:
> > Am Mo, 21 Mär 2011 09:59:28 CET schrieb Chris G:
> > 
> > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 05:22:00PM +0000, Chris G wrote:
> > > > > > Start it manually, configure everything, so it is working,
> > > > > > then add nm-applet to the autostart of XFCE, sorry don't
> > > > > > know how it is called in English exactly.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Ah, problem:-
> > > > > 
> > > > >     chris$ /usr/bin/nm-applet &
> > > > >     [1] 10409
> > > > >     chris$ An instance of nm-applet is already running.
> > > > > 
> > > > > However it's not visible anywhere, how can I get to see
> > > > > it?  :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > In fact there's something odd going on here. (I have other
> > > > xubuntu systems where all seems to be well, not yet upgraded to
> > > > 10.10 yet though). 
> > > > 
> > > > If I kill and restart the nm-applet it all *seems* to work OK
> > > > but I still can't see anything, I definitely do have a
> > > > notification area though and there are other things visible in
> > > > it.
> > > > 
> > > >     chris$ which nm-applet
> > > >     /usr/bin/nm-applet
> > > >     chris$ /usr/bin/nm-applet &
> > > >     [1] 10409
> > > >     chris$ An instance of nm-applet is already running.
> > > >     ^C
> > > >     [1]+  Exit 1                  /usr/bin/nm-applet
> > > >     chris$ ps -ef | grep nm-applet
> > > >     chris     2930     1  0 Mar19 ?        00:00:00 nm-applet
> > > > --sm-disable chris    10461  2790  0 17:16 pts/6    00:00:00
> > > > grep nm-applet chris$ kill -15 2930
> > > >     chris$ ps -ef | grep nm-applet
> > > >     chris    10467  2790  0 17:16 pts/6    00:00:00 grep
> > > > nm-applet chris$ nm-applet
> > > >     ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
> > > >     ** Message: applet now embedded in the notification area
> > > >     ** (nm-applet:10469): DEBUG: old state indicates that this
> > > > was not a disconnect 0
> > > > 
> > > Well I've found a solution - uninstall Network Manager and install
> > > wicd instead, much better behaved, it doesn't mess about with
> > > my /etc/hosts *and* it appears in the notification area OK.
> > 
> > Wicd doesn't support UMTS-connections or was there a change in the
> > last months?
> > 
> What's a UMTS connection?  :-)
> 
> .... quick Google, ah, Universal Mobile Telecommunications Service. 
> Presumably that means 3G type connections or similar, I don't think I
> care about this for this particular case.

Yes, but AFAIK not exactly. In other words, I need it for a mobile
internet connection.

> > With my Xubuntu 10.10 network-manager-gnome
> > 0.8.1+git.20100809t190028.290dc70-0ubuntu3 works fine. Maybe you
> > try to _purge_  your version and try again.
> > 
> > I noticed with the Opensuse 11.3-version, that the applet wasn't
> > visible in the panel, but it became visible, when clementine was
> > opened, which adds an icon to the panel. Maybe this is your problem.
> > 
> I think the non-appearance of NM is something to do with what I have
> in /etc/network/interfaces:-
> 
>     # This file describes the network interfaces available on your
> system # and how to activate them. For more information, see
> interfaces(5).
> 
>     # The loopback network interface
>     auto lo
>     iface lo inet loopback
> 
>     # The primary network interface
>     iface eth0 inet static
>     address 192.168.1.4
>     netmask 255.255.255.0
>     gateway 192.168.1.1
> 
> (This machine is 192.168.1.4 and its IP is fixed rather than being
> obtained by DHCP, hence the above)

I have a similar problem and things work somehow, but are not
understandable.

Did you install resolvconf? I think you should _not_

I noticed the following with my machines:

If there is only 1 kind of connection and it is already setup _before_
you login to XFCE it is _not_ shown in the panel.

When I configured something like you in /etc/network/interfaces then
dns didn't work. If I added a dns-server in /etc/resolv.conf (I know
the warning, that it is useless), and X was _not_ started everything
worked fine. If I added a dns-server in /etc/resolv.conf, when XFCE was
started, the entry was removed after the next restart. It was removed
too, when the packkage resolvconf was installed.

So, I got it work somehow, although I don't understand why.

Al