4.6: new windows now start on bottom

Vincent mailinglists at vinnl.nl
Mon Jul 13 21:41:57 CEST 2009

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Chris G <cl at isbd.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:53:26AM -0700, Net Llama! wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Grant
> > Edwards<grant.b.edwards at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Can anybody could recommend other window managers that work
> > > well with XFCE desktop and panel?
> >
> > I'll second that request.
> >
> Well I have been muttering about returning to FVWM.  :-)
> I'm not on either 'side' here but I do feel I'm caught in the
> crossfire a bit.
> I think there's two views:-
>    The user just wants things to be easy to "work the way they always
>    used to", (sort of).
>    The developers want to go the 'right' (modern, fashionable) way.
> OK, I'm biased, I'm a user in the above (so I am a bit on one side).
> It does seem to me though that "the way things work" is an argument
> used by the developers as if that is the end of the argument.  OK, if
> something really isn't possible then it isn't possible but if
> something that lots of people want doesn't fit into the current
> 'philosophy' the it seems to me that it's the philosphy that's wrong.

I don't really want to get involved in this discussion, but "a lot of
people" so far is only based on three or so users requesting it in this
thread. I'm perfectly happy with the regular behaviour, and I suppose more
people are. Problem is, there is no way to tell exactly which option has
most demand among all of Xfce's users, so it's up to the developers to
choose what to do. They can take into account well-funded arguments, but
statistics doesn't really help.

Also, what is the problem with using Devil's Pie? Isn't that made exactly
for specialized use cases like this?

> My pet problem on this front is having to use add-ons like Devils Pie
> to get the window placements I want rather than it being built into
> the window manager.
> --
> Chris Green

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