Raise/lower

[Bob Snyder]

Ondrej,

Try unchecking "Raise on click" in Window Manager Preferences -> Focus. 
Or maybe you don't want that behavior.

I don't mean to criticize anyone's preferences, but I don't understand 
why folks would want a window to raise when clicked in. This is one of 
the most annoying things with MS Windows IMO. I like being able to 
scroll, click, enter text, dnd, or whatever into a window without it 
raising and covering up some other window that I'm trying to read from, 
drag to, etc.

Perhaps someone can offer an explanation of the benefit of "raise on click".

Sorry if this is a bit off topic.

Bob S.



Ondrej Mihalyi wrote:

>Unfortunately, I use single iconbox and it doesn't work that way.  But I read that some changes re going to happen to iconbox, so I think I'll just wait and see.  I was also thinking of trying to redesign iconbox to fit to myself, but I scarcely have any time free now and probably won't have in the near future.
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>Thanks for advice anyway :)
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>I also wondered, if it is possible to implement the easier drag&drop on an application level, meaning to make application recognize drag and refuse focus.
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>Ondrej
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>On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 21:36:04 +0100
>Olivier Fourdan <fourdan at xfce.org> wrote:
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>>While dragging, simply move the mouse over the icon of the destination
>>application in the taskbar, that window will be raised automatically.
>>
>>HTH
>>Olivier.
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>>On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 21:21 +0100, Ondrej Mihalyi wrote:
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>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>I think that Olivier's advice is a nice solution to Bruce's problem, but I also came around another inconvenience with drag&drop, that would be solved if done as Bruce wrote.  The inconvenience is that if I want to drag and drop e.g. a file from one window to another one, the window I'm dragging from gets focus if I use left mouse button (as with rox) and often covers the window I want to drag to.  I have no choice to complete the drag, because Alt+Tab shortcut doesn't work while dragging and I have no idea how could I give focus to covered window, so that I can drop on it.  I think that would be a good example of a good user interface feature, if after starting a drag the window that I start dragging from would not get focus, or at least make WM somehow enable Alt+Tab shortcut while dragging.
>>>
>>>As I remember, MS Windows Explorer works in that way, in Windows it's not only in WM, because I didn't see it in any other application in Windows.  I don't want  XFCE be like Windows, but I want it to be easy to use :)  In Windows, the Alt+Tab definitely works, at least partially with drag.
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>>>Bruce's idea would solve also this problem.  In fact I also had that idea, but didn't think it was so important to bother you developers :)  But since someone else had the same idea, I would support it.
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>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Ondrej
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>>>On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 14:34:30 +0100
>>>Olivier Fourdan <fourdan at xfce.org> wrote:
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>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>I may be missing your point completely, but you can move windows without
>>>>raising them by simply using the right mouse button on the title bar...
>>>>
>>>>HTH
>>>>Olivier.
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>>>>>On a related note, probably my only peave with xfwm4 is that it raises windows
>>>>>on button press, unconditionally -- ie. even if you're just moving the window.
>>>>>I'd like to be able to move windows without changing the stacking order,
>>>>>but a `simple' click _would_ raise the window.
>>>>>
>>>>>The logic would be something like: putting the raise function on the button release
>>>>>handler, instead of button press, but only raising if there wasn't a preceding
>>>>>move operation.   Granted, the code is a bit messier, but the current behaviour
>>>>>is messier for the user to try to get the windows stacked back where you want them.
>>>>>
>>>>>Is something like this (optionally) possible? Or does it go against the
>>>>>philosophy of xfwm?
>>>>>
>>>>>bruce
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