Xfce Digest, Vol 20, Issue 43

Sun Jul 31 19:49:08 CEST 2005

Доброго времени суток!
программа запустилась из под эмулятора wine, входящего в комплект большинства 
дистрибутивов линукс. Я без проблем создал нового пользователя. Проблема 
возникла с началом работы. "Изучение ПДД" потребовало от меня установить 
комплект ActiveX. Буду думать что подсунуть эмулятору.

В сообщении от 31 Июль 2005 14:27 xfce-request at xfce.org написал(a):
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>    1. Combining the panel and taskbar (Brian Link)
>    2. Re: Combining the panel and taskbar (Alexander Toresson)
>    3. Re: Combining the panel and taskbar (Yves-Alexis Perez)
>    4. Re: panel plugin praise (Erik Harrison)
>    5. What to put in sudoers to shutdown from Xfce? (Brett)
>    6. Re: What to put in sudoers to shutdown from Xfce?
>       (Brian J. Tarricone)
>    7. Re: What to put in sudoers to shutdown from Xfce?
>       (Brett I. Holcomb)
>    8. Re: What to put in sudoers to shutdown from Xfce? (Adrian Barnes)
>    9. Panel (Daryl)
>   10. Re: Panel (Yves-Alexis Perez)
>   11. Re: Panel (Jasper Huijsmans)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:27:47 -0400
> From: Brian Link <linky4386 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Combining the panel and taskbar
> To: xfce at xfce.org
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> Hello all!
> I've been using linux in various forms for a few years now, and just
> recently (read: yesterday) started using xfce, and I'm very impressed.
>  However, my only peeve with everything is that I can not figure out
> how to combine the panel and taskbar into just one bar (or if it is
> even possible to do so).  I'm so used to the panel in KDE with
> everything being as one, and the panel in windows XP (no real choice
> of OS at work).
> Thanks in advance,
> Link
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:31:44 +0200
> From: Alexander Toresson <alexander.toresson at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Combining the panel and taskbar
> To: Brian Link <linky4386 at gmail.com>, 	XFCE general discussion list
> 	<xfce at xfce.org>
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> There's a  taskbar panel plugin. It's in the goodies iirc.
>
> Regards, Alexander Toresson
>
> On 7/30/05, Brian Link <linky4386 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello all!
> > I've been using linux in various forms for a few years now, and just
> > recently (read: yesterday) started using xfce, and I'm very impressed.
> >  However, my only peeve with everything is that I can not figure out
> > how to combine the panel and taskbar into just one bar (or if it is
> > even possible to do so).  I'm so used to the panel in KDE with
> > everything being as one, and the panel in windows XP (no real choice
> > of OS at work).
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Link
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:32:24 +0200
> From: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac at corsac.net>
> Subject: Re: Combining the panel and taskbar
> To: Brian Link <linky4386 at gmail.com>,	XFCE general discussion list
> 	<xfce at xfce.org>
> Message-ID: <42EB9D88.909 at corsac.net>
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> Brian Link wrote:
> > Hello all!
> > I've been using linux in various forms for a few years now, and just
> > recently (read: yesterday) started using xfce, and I'm very impressed.
> >  However, my only peeve with everything is that I can not figure out
> > how to combine the panel and taskbar into just one bar (or if it is
> > even possible to do so).  I'm so used to the panel in KDE with
> > everything being as one, and the panel in windows XP (no real choice
> > of OS at work).
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Link
>
> Juste use the panel plugin "taskbar" :)
>
> --
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:34:06 -0400
> From: Erik Harrison <erikharrison at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: panel plugin praise
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> On 7/30/05, Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu> wrote:
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> > Gavin Chester wrote:
> > > My enthusiasm is especially high because it solved the _major_
> > > irritation I had with my use of evolution email client: evo doesn't
> > > integrate with the clipboard very well, to the point that saw me
> > > looking for solutions on the evo mail list.  In evo, if you copy a
> > > selection of text and then close the mail from which the selection
> > > came, the clipboard is purged.
> >
> > There's a nice pseudo-spec written by jwz as to how this is supposed to
> > work:
> > http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html
> >
> > In summary:
> >
> > * The CLIPBOARD selection (e.g., ctrl+c, or Edit->Copy menu item) should
> > be persistent.  If a user closes a window in an app where something was
> > selected and copied to CLIPBOARD, this should not be lost.  You paste
> > from CLIPBOARD explicitly, via something like ctrl+v or an Edit->Paste
> > menu item.
> >
> > * The PRIMARY selection (selecting with the mouse) is transient.  As
> > soon as the text is no longer actually selected (either by selecting
> > something else or by closing the window), it should disappear.  You
> > paste from PRIMARY with the middle mouse button.
> >
> > Soooo... if evo is purging PRIMARY when the window is closed, that's
> > correct.  If it's purging CLIPBOARD, that's essentially a bug (there's
> > no real spec for this AFAIK, but for consistency's sake...).  Note that
> > if evo *exits*, IIRC you lose CLIPBOARD as well because you don't
> > actually get selection data until you try to paste, and if the app isn't
> > running anymore, it can't be asked to give selection data.
>
> Pardon, this is the behaviour I was refering to. I was assuming that
> evo has closed
>
> >         -brian
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:17:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Brett <magnesium_ at yahoo.com>
> Subject: What to put in sudoers to shutdown from Xfce?
> To: xfce at xfce.org
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> OK I have been using Gnome for years with Red Hat and never needed to use
> sudo before. I understand I need sudo to shutdown my system with Xfce. For
> some reason my brain cannot latch onto the correct entries I need to put
> in the sudoers file to allow one user to perform a simple shutdown -h now.
> I tried "userName localhost=/sbin/shutdown -h now", this makes the reboot
> and turn off computer options active but then it asks my pasword and
> denies my shuting down the system anyway. I'm at a loss.
>
> Thanks,
> Brett
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:35:48 -0700
> From: "Brian J. Tarricone" <bjt23 at cornell.edu>
> Subject: Re: What to put in sudoers to shutdown from Xfce?
> To: XFCE general discussion list <xfce at xfce.org>
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> Brett wrote:
> > OK I have been using Gnome for years with Red Hat and never needed to use
> > sudo before. I understand I need sudo to shutdown my system with Xfce.
> > For some reason my brain cannot latch onto the correct entries I need to
> > put in the sudoers file to allow one user to perform a simple shutdown -h
> > now. I tried "userName localhost=/sbin/shutdown -h now", this makes the
> > reboot and turn off computer options active but then it asks my pasword
> > and denies my shuting down the system anyway. I'm at a loss.
>
> RTFM:
> http://www.loculus.nl/xfce/documentation/docs-4.2/xfce4-session.html#xfsm-s
>hutdown
>
> 	-brian
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 23:22:20 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Brett I. Holcomb" <brettholcomb at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: What to put in sudoers to shutdown from Xfce?
> To: xfce at xfce.org
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> Here's what I have
>
> usernamehere ALL=/usr/libexec/xfsm-shutdown-helper, HALT, REBOOT,
> SHUTDOWNNOW
>
> where HALT, REBOOT, and  SHUTDOWN are:
>
> Cmnd_Alias      HALT = /usr/sbin/halt
> Cmnd_Alias      KILL = /usr/bin/kill
> Cmnd_Alias      REBOOT = /usr/sbin/reboot
> Cmnd_Alias      SHUTDOWN = /usr/sbin/shutdown
> Cmnd_Alias      SHUTDOWNNOW = /usr/sbin/shutdown -h now
>
> On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
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> > Brett wrote:
> >> OK I have been using Gnome for years with Red Hat and never needed to
> >> use sudo before. I understand I need sudo to shutdown my system with
> >> Xfce. For some reason my brain cannot latch onto the correct entries I
> >> need to put in the sudoers file to allow one user to perform a simple
> >> shutdown -h now. I tried "userName localhost=/sbin/shutdown -h now",
> >> this makes the reboot and turn off computer options active but then it
> >> asks my pasword and denies my shuting down the system anyway. I'm at a
> >> loss.
> >
> > RTFM:
> > http://www.loculus.nl/xfce/documentation/docs-4.2/xfce4-session.html#xfsm
> >-shutdown
> >
> > 	-brian
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:18:14 +1000
> From: Adrian Barnes <adrian440 at samford.net>
> Subject: Re: What to put in sudoers to shutdown from Xfce?
> To: xfce at xfce.org
> Message-ID: <42EC9756.1030500 at samford.net>
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> Unfortunately, following the manual in this case will still leave you
> with a password prompt. To have no password prompt, use the following,
> and make sure the priviliged users are part of the operator group.
> Line for sudoers file:
>
> %operator  ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/xfsm-shutdown-helper
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 22:27:26 +1200
> From: Daryl <dm2nz at xtra.co.nz>
> Subject: Panel
> To: xfce at xfce.org
> Message-ID: <20050731102726.GA1848 at xtra.co.nz>
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>   Installed xfce4.2 onto my Sarge stable. But for some unknown reason my
>   panel changes keep going back to default after rebooting. I can ad new
> icons etc for current session, but after rebooting, everything goes back to
> defaults. I can increase may workspaces alright but anything else is
> impossible. anyone had the same problem??
>
>   Regards
>   Daryl
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:25:06 +0200
> From: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac at corsac.net>
> Subject: Re: Panel
> To: XFCE general discussion list <xfce at xfce.org>
> Message-ID: <42ECA702.2010003 at corsac.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Daryl wrote:
> >   Installed xfce4.2 onto my Sarge stable. But for some unknown reason my
> >   panel changes keep going back to default after rebooting. I can ad new
> > icons etc for current session, but after rebooting, everything goes back
> > to defaults. I can increase may workspaces alright but anything else is
> > impossible. anyone had the same problem??
>
> Sarge Xfce is 4.0. What version have you installed ? Installers ? .deb
> from os-works ? .deb from unstable ? 4.2.1 panel has a bug, and doesnt
> save the settings  but i dont think it's that.
>
> What version have you installed ?

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