xfce version 3 vs. 4 : missing features?

[bob.snyder]

Rob Lahaye wrote:

> 29 Sep 2003, Biju Chacko wrote:
> >
>
>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:34:23 +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
>>
>>> I have tried new version 4 recently and almost instantly missed 
>>> features that
>>> I use so often in version 3. Suprisingly, whatever I tried and 
>>> searched, these
>>> features seem to be absent in 4. Here's what I'm talking about:
>>
> >>
>
>>> 2) midle-mouse-click on root window
>>> In version 3, this gives a list of operators on windows
>>> (e.g. move, resize, (de)iconify, etc.)
>>
>>
>> Right-click menu on a title bar. I suppose this could be added to 
>> xfdesktop, but
>> it's not needed anymore.
>
>
> A general 'move', as Xfce-3 allows with the middle-mouse-click on the 
> root-window,
> is not there anymore in Xfce-4.
>
> Very small windows (e.g. xbiff) have, by default, a too small title 
> bar (or even
> no title bar at all) and can be moved this way in Xfce-3. In Xfce-4, I 
> only can
> 'move' if the window has a title bar, and the title bar must be of 
> decent size.
> This is not convenient.
>
>>> 4) How to create an application window without windowbar, sticky,
>>> always-ontop etc. In xfce3, I have in xfwmrc, f.ex:
>>> Style "xbiff" NoTitle, Sticky, StayOnTop
>>
>>
>> The application itself must do this itself per freedesktop standards. 
>> Gkrellm
>> does it and provides a nice mailbox monitor. There is also a panel 
>> plugin to
>> monitor mailboxes.
>
>
> This solution seems of no use for me.
>
You can still move a window with or without a title bar with <alt> 
left-click and drag. And resize is <alt> right-click and drag.

Bob S.