Two problems

[Olivier Fourdan]

Par,

Ok, that's big news. Why ? Because it's not xfwm4 that's dying. That was
my main fear.

So, I guess we have to dig elsewhere. And frankly, I don't see why xfwm4
would kill suddenly KDE apps.

As for Mozilla, you'd better get a binary from Mozilla.org, the one that
ship with Red Hat is buggy and unstable.

Cheers,
Olivier.

On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 13:04, Pär Ekholm wrote:
> lördag 28 juni 2003 09:13 skrev Olivier Fourdan:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Mozilla dying is *not* related to xfce... I can make it die in a few
> > seconds on a stock Red Hat 9, whatever desktop envt I use (GNOME 2.2 or
> > KDE 3.1)
> >
> > As it seems, I've never find Mozilla that ships with Red Hat stable. If
> > I get Mozilla from Mozilla website, or if I compile it myself, it's very
> > stable. When I use the one that comes with Red Hat (all versions I
> > tried, 7.2, 8.0 and 9), Mozilla is *very* unstable. Go figure.
> >
> > What I'm trying to figure is exactly what is really related to xfce4.
> > When you say "the windows suddenly disappear on the screen" can you run
> > other apps, what happen if you press, let's say "Alt+F2", can you switch
> > desktops ? Do the window are still decorated ? Can you click on the
> > desktop and see the menu ?
> 
> Yes, the weird thing is that when the windows dies you can start them up again 
> and it is like before. It´s like, to speek a little metaphorical, that the 
> windowmanager can´t "hold" them up and they close down. But i have done like 
> you said deinstalled all libxfcegui4-libs and reinstalled them. I´m going to 
> test a little today. And maybe with the libs you sent yesterday. Maybe it´s 
> not a xfce4 thing. Maybe unstable KDE apps. But they have no problem when run 
> in KDE.
> 
> cheers
> 
> > Cheers,
> > Olivier.
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 20:59, Pär Ekholm wrote:
> > > fredag 27 juni 2003 19:49 skrev Olivier Fourdan:
> > > > Pär,
> > > >
> > > > First of all, get rid af all versions of libxfcegui4 previously
> > > > installed and reinstall.
> > > >
> > > > rm /usr/lib/libxfcegui4*
> > >
> > > Hi again!
> > > But the problem is that prior to the install of the beta1 rpms on my rh9
> > > system i don´t have ANY xfce4-libraries on the system. So that can´t be
> > > the problem. It was so on the beta1-system too (the dying of windows i
> > > mean).
> > >
> > > > (or /usr/local/lib/libxfcegui4*, depending on where you actually
> > > > installed the libs)
> > > >
> > > > I've done some testing, kinf of heavy brute force testing (you run as
> > > > many apps as possible, killing them after a few seconds) - These kind
> > > > of tests stress the window manager a lot, and usually shows problems
> > > > fairly quickly.
> > > >
> > > > xfwm4 pass them all. This is not the case with plenty of well known
> > > > window managers.
> > > >
> > > > Amazingly, KDE apps died all at once because of DCOpserver dying fairly
> > > > quickly...
> > >
> > > Yes it happens often with KDE apps. But in my case also with mozilla.
> > > The list replies about "funky" hardware i must make objections to. My
> > > hardware is a athlon thunderbird 1200 Mhz with a regular harddrive (not
> > > raid). Nvidia TNT2 graphics board. System: Redhat 9, xfree86-4.3.0-2
> > > (RH9), gtk+-1.2.10-25, gtk2-2.2.1-4 (rpms from the kde-redhat-project).
> > > All other rpms are stock redhat 9 rpms.
> > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Olivier.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > P. Ekholm
> > >
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