xfce4 - In lieue of a session manager

Jack Coates jack at monkeynoodle.org
Wed Jul 2 00:25:00 CEST 2003

On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 11:47, Joe Klemmer wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 19:47, Jack Coates wrote:
> > Seriously, the above command took fifteen seconds of disk churn under
> > XFce3 :-)
> 	It takes that long on the very first run 'cause it's got to load all
> the K-rap, unfortunately.
> > That said, some nice stuff comes with the KDE environment which doesn't
> > need the whole ball of wax -- artsd for instance is now my default sound
> > system under XFce as well.
> 	I have to agree that kstart is nice to have handy.  I don't mind many
> of the KDE or GNOME applications (Evolution is my mail client of
> choice).  I just wish they'd have tried to do it w/o all the bloat and
> other junk.  

the scary thing is, I'll bet dollars to donuts that they did try and
this is the result. Seriously, try to find an open source changelog that
doesn't include some statement like "cleaned up code to do foobar."

> It's nearly impossible to easily upgrade individual
> applications under these environments.  If I want to run Evolution 1.4
> instead of the 1.2 that comes with RH9 I need to also upgrade a zillion
> other utilities and libraries and such.  And it'll still break something
> (probably mozilla).
Jack Coates
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