Full screen borderless on Blender not working

[Nathan Allworth]

Thanks for clarifying.

I understand now.

Do you mind if I give this email to the blender
developers so they'll know what needs to be changed to
be EWMH?

Thanks
      /-Nathan-/
--- Olivier Fourdan <fourdan at xfce.org> wrote:
> Nathan,
> 
> No xfce is not broken, nor is blender... let me
> explain.
> 
> belner is not EWMH. So to achieve fullscreen, it
> simply creates a
> borderless window the size of the screen. Until
> here, fine.
> 
> But, in EWMH, it's is specified that docks should be
> placed on a above
> layer. So, if an application that is not EWMH
> compilant is trying to
> acheive fullscreen, it cannot as the taskbar will
> still be there, above
> the application...
> 
> But xfwm4, since RC3, is able to detect when a older
> "legacy" app is
> trying to achieve fullscreen and then automatically
> place that window
> above so that it really acheive fullscreen, which is
> what is meant...
> You see?
> 
> No bug here, just "features" :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Olivier.
> 
> On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 17:57, Nathan Allworth wrote:
> > I hate to bother again, but it's still not
> working.
> > It's fullscreen borderless, however the "always on
> top
> > state" is now on, now usually a problem, but
> > 
> > So this time instead of trying to "fix" xfce
> (which if
> > i understand isn't broken) I can try to fix
> blender,
> > or get help from a blender dev.
> > 
> > To do this I'll need to know what to tell one of
> the
> > devs. Something like "part X in the freedesktop
> > standards is missing or broken". (that's probably
> over
> > simplified).
> > 
> > Thanks again for your time.
> > --- Olivier Fourdan <fourdan at xfce.org> wrote:
> > > Nathan,
> > > 
> > > You can grab the source snapshot here:
> > > 
> > >
> http://www.xfce.org/archive/test/xfwm4-cvs.tar.bz2
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Olivier.
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 01:22, Nathan Allworth
> wrote:
> > > > Thank you very much!
> > > > 
> > > > I'm guessing the changed code is in the CVS?
> If so
> > > > what modules have changed? (as if I don't
> know,
> > > xfwm?)
> > > > :)
> > > > --- Olivier Fourdan <fourdan at xfce.org> wrote:
> > > > > Well, blender is faulty here, it defines
> only 4
> > > > > elements for MWM hints
> > > > > instead of 5 as expected...
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've changed xfwm4 code so it reads and
> expects
> > > only
> > > > > 4 elemensts, as we
> > > > > don't care about the fifth element anyway.
> So
> > > > > blender is happy now.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Olivier.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 00:18, Nathan Allworth
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > I recently updated to rc3 from rc2. After
> > > doing so
> > > > > I
> > > > > > noticed that Blender 2.28a dynamic --along
> > > with
> > > > > other
> > > > > > versions-- no longer loads full screen
> > > borderless
> > > > > > (default setting in blender dynamic) like
> it
> > > used
> > > > > to,
> > > > > > and like it does in most other WMs (all
> that
> > > of
> > > > > them
> > > > > > that i have tried, gnome/kde/fluxbox).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It used to load full screen borderless in
> rc2,
> > > and
> > > > > > rc1.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I can test any changes if need be.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If you need it for testing: Blender 2.28a
> > > dynamic
> > > > > for
> > > > > > linux binary can be found here:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
ftp://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/blender.org/release/Blender2.28a/blender-2.28a-linux-glibc2.2.5-i386.tar.gz
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks for the help!!
> > > > > > 
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