[Thunar-dev] multiple thunar instances and session management half-baked

Jari Rahkonen jari.rahkonen at pp1.inet.fi
Mon Mar 9 11:53:20 CET 2009


Dennis Heuer kirjoitti:
> On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:24:51 -0600
> Cory Christison <cory.christison at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I don't think the intention was for it to be 'half-baked'. I think the
>> developers just didn't forsee that type of usage pattern.
> 
> which is the same. reality decides about this fact - not your
> intention. i can't see why you are so angry.
> 
>> I feel it was rather rude to come barging in here exlaiming this
>> magnificent peice of software was 'half-baked.'
> 
> what did i do??? possibly, you are too affected by your imaginary
> picture of the 'magnificient' thunar? aehhm, did i end in a sect or
> so??? what are you barking? thunar is not persistent in the real sense.
> this may be of intend. however, then just stating your position would
> be enough. why you are so angry about other positions, which you know
> are quite arguable.
> 
>> I feel that for general users it was very well thought out.
> 
> don't general users open things twice for different use cases? why you
> are so <assured>? be a bit more open!

I'm sure your use case is valid if not common. If it was common, you
wouldn't be the first to complain.

>> I think that you would have a more positive response if you would have
>> used the bug  tracker, and submitted this as a bug.
> 
> submitting this pledge for enhancement as a bug would be barking,
> from my point of view. i really don't understand your viewpoint!?
> 
> however, i refuse (bark) to use bugzilla because it still doesn't let
> one at least close an account.

Too bad, as that's how 'requests for enhancement' work in many open
source projects. You open a bug where you describe the functionality you
find missing and set the severity to enhancement.

> all the bugzillas in the world still
> hold old accounts under my name but with old and dead email addresses
> and still sensitive personal data of mine. i don't even have the
> passwords anymore to at least delete the sensitive data. this 'intend'
> of the bugzilla developers was already harshly discussed (because it is
> stealing the freedom from the account owner) but without concrete
> result. this is why i never use bugzilla if there is a mailinglist
> available. and if not, i most probably don't write at all.
> freedesktop.org, for example, makes a difference because of the many
> projects for which there is only one account needed and most possibly
> valuable in future.

Getting a new password (or changing the email address I presume) is as
simple as sending an email to the admin.

> cudos to all Thuar developers. you are great - but sometimes a bit too
> sensitive, i think.

AFAIK Cory is not a Thunar developer (and neither am I). I do agree that
the tone of your original mail probably didn't encourage anyone to start
coding. There's simply no way someone would want to do you a favor by
fixing your personal pet peeve if your only argument is that the
software is 'half-baked' if they don't. But maybe you don't see the
problem because of a language barrier or something...

> best wishes,
> dennis heuer

- Jari



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