Move from IRC to Matrix?

[andre at andreldm.com]

Hi,
I've been using The Lounge as bouncer/client for many years, it's been serving me well, I don't exactly want to investe time migrating to something else, however, if other devs want it, I accept it.

Cheers,
Andre Miranda

Sep 11, 2023, 21:20 by acs82 at gmx.de:

> Hi all,
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> thank you for bringing this up Brian!
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> After the libera bridge has been shut      down, I tried to get ZNC + Hexchat to run ... one hour of      configuration trial & error later I gave up and went to bed 😠
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> Currently I barely have time to      maintain thunar. So currently not much interest in dumping more      time into getting ZNC/IRC to run again. (Knowing that there are      other tools which just work out of the box makes it even more      frustrating)
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> Another pro argument for Matrix:      Keeping the entrance barrier low will be beneficial for attracting      new contributors.
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> So a big +1 from my side for moving      #xfce-dev over to Matrix
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> Cheers, alex(xcons)
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> Am 10.09.23 um 21:49 schrieb Brian      Tarricone:
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>> Hey all,
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>> As most of us have found, the matrix.org bridge between        Matrix and Libera has been shut down due to various bugs and        other issues that the Libera team weren't happy about.  And,        apparently, the "plumbed channels" feature (which has not been        shut down) is currently not working at matrix.org.
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>> While I've been using ZNC and IRC directly (with various        annoyances and issues), quite a few of us (Gaël and Alex at        least) had been using the Matrix bridge to get to #xfce-dev        etc.  (I've recently set up my own personal Matrix homeserver        and have bridged my user account over to IRC, and I really like        the experience so far, much better than my previous ZNC+Hexchat        experience.)
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>> I'd like to propose that we move #xfce-dev over to Matrix, for        the following reasons:
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>> * Chat history comes for free and is directly integrated.  No        need to run a bouncer or check some web-based bot-generated IRC        chat history every time you connect.
>> * We get threads, message reactions, longer messages,        attachments, syntax highlighting, etc.  Essentially, "modern        chat stuff".  I know some people might think this sort of thing        is superfluous and silly, but after spending some time away from        IRC, on platforms like Slack, I find I really do miss these        things (in that they actually make communication easier, not        just that they're "fun" or "cute").
>> * Matrix an open, federated protocol, so there's minimal        lock-in or risk of a proprietary service screwing us over.         Certainly we're tied to whatever homeserver we pick to host the        channel (presumably matrix.org), but if we really wanted to, we        could even run an xfce.org homeserver (someday, certainly not        today), and then have full control over the channels.
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>> There are certainly downsides:
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>> * Anyone without a Matrix account will have to create one, and        join yet another service.
>> * Bots running in our IRC channels will presumably have to be        rewritten or modified to use Matrix APIs.
>> * Minor wrinkle: #xfce-dev:matrix.org is currently owned by a        community member.  They claim they are squatting on the name and        holding it in case one of us wants to do something with it (and        will transfer ownership), but who knows if they're actively        around and would respond to requests.
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>> At this time I'm only proposing moving #xfce-dev, and not        #xfce or #xfce-commits.  My reasoning here is that our        development team is currently split communication-wise between        the now-non-bridged channel on Matrix, and the channel on IRC,        so we have a current need to fix the development team's        communication.  If we end up liking having #xfce-dev on Matrix,        we can talk about moving the other channels later.
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>> Thoughts?
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>>      -brian
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