Xfce project and financial contributions
Bruno Schmidt
bw509 at centurylink.net
Tue Apr 20 18:58:26 CEST 2021
Greetings to y'all!
Fwiw: if your objective is to withdraw from bountysource (@
https://www.bountysource.com/teams/xfce ) then the link to that service
should be removed from xfce's page ( @ https://www.xfce.org/getinvolved
) sooner than later. As you can see, donations are still flowing in,
thus donors will have to be contacted to redirect their payment
directives -- not an easy task, for sure...
I have looked at kde.org, ubuntu-mate, mate-desktop, linux mint,
opencollective, patreon, and other paywalls, and would humbly suggest to
develop a PayPal-based solution. For the simple reason that it their API
works well and can be used internationally. However, there's a rub: if
the person/entity that manages (read: admin & bank accounts) the PayPal
account is a US-"taxpayer" (has an SSN or applied for/uses an EIN), then
the flow of donations becomes subject to US tax-laws per se, and
possibly tax liabilities, and perhaps additional information-report
filing requirements (ie f1099) on US recipients of donated funds.
On the up-side, Incorporating a non-profit corp / trust /foundation here
in one of the US states is relatively simple and cheap, but does require
a "registered agent" (for legal process) in the state of incorporation,
ie Nevada or Washington.
Just some constructive thoughts. Cheers, BW
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On 4/19/21 5:31 PM, kevin.bowen at gmail.com wrote:
>
> That was definitely not the case. But thank you.
>
> On 4/18/21 6:23 PM, Yousuf Philips wrote:
>> After we got rejected, I had reached out to the person handling
>> social media for Endeavor and he found it strange that Xfce would be
>> rejected and said "If he [Kevin] wanted to join the team, then I
>> understand the rejection. This is only reserved for the founders and
>> our fiscal host. If he has an Open Collective account he should be
>> joining it. By it, I mean the collective."
>>
>> Regards,
>> Yousuf
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:15 AM Kevin Bowen <kevin.bowen at gmail.com
>> <mailto:kevin.bowen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> It appears that Open Collective has admitted an error and
>> reversed their
>> decision for not allowing Xfce to join one of their
>> communities/fiscal
>> hosts. *shrug* I'll pick this up again next week.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On 4/15/21 1:41 PM, Kevin Bowen wrote:
>> > Update:
>> >
>> > Open Collective is quickly being moved off of the table as a
>> viable
>> > fiscal host for the Xfce project.
>> >
>> > I had applied to join one of there collective, and was rejected
>> > because Xfce did not meet their criteria.
>> >
>> > https://www.oscollective.org/#criteria
>> <https://www.oscollective.org/#criteria>
>> >
>> > I can only guess that Xfce is not popular, or open source
>> enough for
>> > them. Perhaps we don't have enough GitHub stars on our
>> repositories.
>> > :-/ I don't really know as they have not responded to my specific
>> > questions.
>> >
>> > I am still sort of engaged with them; but, this reception may be a
>> > good indicator that we may not want to deal with them. We shall
>> see.
>> >
>> > Kevin
>> >
>> > On 4/13/21 9:22 PM, Kevin Bowen wrote:
>> >> Hello all,
>> >>
>> >> The Xfce project is currently in the process of looking to engage
>> >> with a new
>> >> organization to help us manage our collective funds as well as
>> allow
>> >> us to
>> >> solicit donations and encourage fundraising efforts directed
>> to end
>> >> users who
>> >> would like to support Xfce financially.
>> >>
>> >> Back in June 2020, Simon had elaborated
>> >>
>> [here](https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/18/why-bountysource-why/
>> <https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/18/why-bountysource-why/>)
>> >> as well as
>> >>
>> [here](https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/26/bountysource-update/
>> <https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/26/bountysource-update/>)
>> >> on some of the issues encountered with Bountysource and that Xfce
>> >> has, subsequently,
>> >> disabled its bug bounties and is looking to separate from its
>> >> association with
>> >> Bountysource.
>> >>
>> >> As of this month, the Xfce team is considering signing up with
>> >> [opencollective](https://opencollective.com/
>> <https://opencollective.com/>) to assist us in
>> >> managing donations and financial contributions.
>> >>
>> >> There are a few other options/orgs that are still being
>> considered;
>> >> but, opencollective is looking like a contender for where we
>> will be
>> >> moving towards to manage collecting funds.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hopefully, we can announce, in a few weeks, that we are open for
>> >> business; and,
>> >> a few new donation buttons can be put up on our pages. Perhaps
>> we can
>> >> even do a PR push to do a fundraiser. I am open to suggestions on
>> >> how, exactly, to pursue this.
>> >>
>> >> That being said, I would like to open this up to the general dev
>> >> mailing list for discussion and feedback for at least two weeks
>> >> before we make a final decision. As of today, the decision to
>> go with
>> >> opencollective is not yet final.
>> >>
>> >> Any constructive feedback is welcome. Additionally, we are
>> open to
>> >> considering other sites/orgs for handling our donations.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you,
>> >>
>> >> kevin
>> >>
>> >>
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