Need help?

Steve Dodier-Lazaro sidnioulz at
Sun May 10 16:10:18 CEST 2015

Hey Filipp,

First, thank you very much for taking some of your time to help improve
Xfce. All contributions are welcome!

The milestone for Xfce 4.14 is to focus on removing infrastructure elements
that are deprecated. Our main goal is to make sure all of Xfce works with
GTK+3. Some secondary goals include cleaning up the list of icons used by
Xfce apps, or supporting libraries such as VTE3 in the terminals. The
development team has pledged to postpone any behaviour / UI / feature
changes to after the 4.14 roadmap. This explains why nobody is looking at
bug reports that do not have a direct relationship to GTK+.

This being said, patches that fix bugs are *always* welcome. It's very
likely that your patch for #10331 is accepted and merged when the
developers are about to release a next version. It's a bit easier to review
patches in batches when more developers are available, and there doesn't
seem to be an *urgent* need for those patches to be reviewed. For bug
#11742, I made a note just now indicating that we would need to know if
your patch has any negative side effect. Being upfront about this and
helping us verifying that it isn't the case will make your patch be
accepted much quicker. If I have to do the testing myself, I'll prioritise
other patches since I could review 2 or 3 patches in the time it would take
for me to test different applications (and my time is *very* scarse).

I hope that explains why we seem unresponsive -- it's not that nobody
cares, but resources must be prioritised a lot in a project as small as
Xfce. Of course, you can help us by working with us on GTK+3 support, which
would help us to release Xfce 4.14 faster, and to distribute your patches
to the users!


On 10 May 2015 at 12:27, Stefan Sperling <stsp at> wrote:

> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 01:05:30PM +0200, Filipp Andjelo wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > first of all, I'm a happy user of XFCE for a long time, thank you all for
> > your effort. However, any software contains bugs and in the open source
> > world help is usually appreciated. I heard, that XFCE community needs it
> and
> > found two small, but annoying bugs to start with. I analyzed the
> problems,
> > supplied patches in bugzilla (please see #10331 and #11742), notified
> this
> > in the IRC xfce-dev, but nobody, really nobody is interested in it. How
> can
> > that be?! Do you need help or not? This was just a trial, but I'm
> probably
> > able to fix more stuff, however after such experience  nobody would like
> to
> > do anything. I'd like not to imagine how many helpers went after such
> > treatment already, but I still want to know, is anybody here really
> > interested in help? Until now, the only answer I got, was to fork XFCE
> for
> > myself and play alone, but I don't think this is the way open source is
> > meant to be... otherwise I just see a deadend for  this wonderful peace
> of
> > software.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Filipp
> Your patches look reasonable, are small and you're providing good
> descriptions of the bugs you're trying to address. I can't imagine
> the lack of responses has to do with anything else but lack of time
> or focus on your particular bug reports on behalf of those managing
> the code. This is an all volunteer project, after all.
> I got some of my patches accepted in the past. It's certainly possible.
> I cannot fix your situation but I hope you'll find attention by asking
> here.
> Thanks.
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Steve Dodier-Lazaro
PhD Student
University College London
Free Software Developer
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