The future of Xfce (or beating the Gtk3 horse to death)

[Martin crysman Zahradník]

Thanks for the issues, I've just read the middle "conspiracy" article...
and it is very sad and scary :(
I am not an active developer, so I do not know where should(not) Xfce
go, but... certainly, these are very important issues.

Thanks
regards
McZ

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On 18.3.2013 20:54, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> Dear all,
> After reading a couple of horror stories on the evolution of Gtk3 (and
> Gnome 3), I'm once again pondering the likely future of Xfce.
> http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/
> http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/a-linux-conspiracy-theory
> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-is-simply-losing-its-grasp/3834
>
> If those stories hold even remotely true, it seems that Gtk3 minor
> releases follow hand in hand with Gnome3 releases, including
> (Apple-style-) breaking of 3rd party applications on each new release.
> Some even go to the extremes of saying: “GTK 3 isn’t a reliable API.
> Maybe it should be called libgnome instead… I genuinely get the
> feeling that GTK 3.4 is developed for GNOME 3.4, that it doesn’t
> really matter if it breaks things and that we’re not supposed to use
> it outside of GNOME.” This eerily recalls me Apple-related horror
> stories.
>
> So if Gtk3 indeed evolves to become incompatible with Xfce by having
> hitherto standard functionality removed, what would Xfce do? Stick
> with Gtk2, as remotely likely as it seems right now? Radically change
> direction and switch to Enlightenment (
> http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/efl ), as Auke once
> suggested and especially since Enlightenment seems more compatible
> with the Xfce philosophy than Gtk3 given the direction in which the
> latter is currently heading?
>
> I know that this has already been discussed on the list in the past,
> but it seems to me that Gtk3 just comes back hunting us. Regards,
> Liviu
>
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