h.judt at gmx.at
Sun May 6 15:12:05 CEST 2012
Am 05.05.2012 20:47, schrieb Raphael Groner:
> this mail goes to both, developers and users of Xfce.
> I am still interested in that thing with a featured and working menu
> editor for Xfce (or maybe not bound to a specific DE at all, this
> probably depends on the libraries being used).
> Alacarte is rudimentally supported by the applicationsmenu internel
> plugin of xfce4-panel. But Alacarte brings a lot of problems that can't
> be fixed on Xfce's site, as so far I understand the ongoing discussion.
> I won't list those well known issues here cause we have had this
> discussion again and again. Similiar discussion have been there around
> about other half-dead projects for an usable menu editor.
> Better let us look forward and more optimistically. My proposal would
> be to start a collection of wished features for a new Menu editor that
> can be nicely integrated into the Xfce philosophy.
> Can we take that point of a Xfce Menu Editor as a goal for Xfce 4.12? I
> appreciate any ideas about features for that new project. First, we
> need a good name. All other wishes are welcome as well. :)
> Best regards,
As for the features...
Or perhaps "how it should look like"? I have only seen screenshots of
Alacarte, but those make it seem a bit uncomfortable to use. Maybe it's
better to create something from scratch. So here are some ideas to
support an efficient workflow:
* Menus/Submenus and applications in one tree?-view (WYSIWYG) where the
menus can be collapsed/expanded. I find the Alacarte approach
with the menu/item separation inflexible and confusing.
* Additionally, use an own area to the right or below the tree-view
that shows the properties of the menu/application (name, command,
path,...). One should not have to double-click the item in the
tree-view and have to deal with an extra dialog to modify or see
something. This would mean lots of tedious extra clicks.
* Add a new item via the context menu or the main menu at the place of
the current selection.
* Drag & Drop of single and multiple items. Alacarte seems to have only
cumbersome "move up"/"move down" buttons? Connect move up/down to
* Copy & paste existing entries.
* Search for and filter applications. Maybe one could use
xfce4-appfinder to add new entries via drag & drop?
`Experience is the best teacher.'
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