Xfce4-dev Digest, Vol 96, Issue 32

[Eric]

On 24/11/2011, xfce4-dev-request at xfce.org <xfce4-dev-request at xfce.org> wrote:
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>    1. Re: Text orientation in vertical panels (Simon Steinbei?)
>    2. Re: Text orientation in vertical panels (Andrzej)
>    3. Moving git to other server. (Nick Schermer)
>    4. Re: Moving git to other server. (Nick Schermer)
>    5. Re: Moving git to other server. (Nick Schermer)
>    6. Re: Moving git to other server. (Nick Schermer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:07:26 +0100
> From: Simon Steinbei? <simon.steinbeiss at elfenbeinturm.at>
> To: Xfce development list <xfce4-dev at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: Text orientation in vertical panels
> Message-ID: <20111123140726.0226dc93 at hana>
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> On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:42:48 +0900
> Andrzej <ndrwrdck at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I see, thanks. Out of curiosity, do you prefer the rotated panel or the
>> deskbar as in the screenshot at the bottom of the page?
>
> I guess I'd use the deskbar or hide the Window-Button-labels entirely (which
> is what I do at the moment). But yeah, this (i.e. hiding labels) doesn't
> work in all cases. Nevertheless I think rotated text is pretty much always a
> bit hard to read.
>
>> I'm not sure if hardwiring orientation of labels to the position on the
>> screen is a good solution (I, for one, would prefer having text rotated
>> counter clockwise in all situations). But we could very easily make it
>> configurable.
>>
>> The real cost is in implementing all these cases. Plug-in writers would
>> have to be aware of all 4 different panel modes (horizontal, deskbar and
>> two rotated vertical) and that's getting messy.
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> The existing rotated vertical panel doesn't really fit any of the above
>> and its functionality is mostly replaced with the deskbar mode, so in my
>> opinion we should either fix it (if so, which way? 3? 4? 3+4?), remove
>> it or keep it as an obsolete option.
>
> For me (being a simple user) the main point of rotated text is to save
> screen estate, because the panel can get really wide in no time.
> The row-option in your panel seems like a nice way to cope with having a
> vertical panel and only one-icon-per-row.
>
> About your four proposals: not sure I understood them correctly, if you have
> the time to combine them with screenshots or mockups I guess it might be
> easier to follow.
>
> All the best
> Simon
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:50:51 +0900
> From: Andrzej <ndrwrdck at googlemail.com>
> To: Xfce development list <xfce4-dev at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: Text orientation in vertical panels
> Message-ID: <4ECD084B.1060306 at gmail.com>
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> On 11/23/2011 10:07 PM, Simon Steinbei? wrote:
>>
>> For me (being a simple user) the main point of rotated text is to save
>> screen estate, because the panel can get really wide in no time.
>> The row-option in your panel seems like a nice way to cope with having a
>> vertical panel and only one-icon-per-row.
>
> OK. I'll try to improve the rotated vertical panel mode then.
>
> I actually like your idea of having both rotated left and right modes. I
> can even go ahead and implement it (1) in the panel and "base" plugins.
> My only concern is that all the 3rd party plugins would have to be
> modified to support 4 different orientations. That's quite a burden on
> their authors.
>
> 1) The way I want to represent this concept in the gui is having a radio
> button which can select between:
>
> "Direction of labels: ( ) Rotated left ( ) Horizontal (x) Rotated right"
>
> just below the combo box for selecting the panel orientation.
>
> It may take some time to implement it so I'll come back here with some
> results later. As you noticed it's hard to judge which solution looks
> and feels best by just talking about it (without playing with a prototype).
>
> Another question is if, and to what extend, these changes could found
> their way into the upstream repository. I'm now venturing beyond my own
> needs (a deskbar mode) so I'd prefer to know if there is a real demand
> for these features (both from users and maintainers).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrzej
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:54:38 +0100
> From: Nick Schermer <nickschermer at gmail.com>
> To: Xfce Dev <xfce4-dev at xfce.org>, Xfce Goodies <goodies-dev at xfce.org>
> Subject: Moving git to other server.
> Message-ID:
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> Devs,
>
> I just took down the git repositories on mocha.
>
> Will post updates to this topic.
>
> Nick
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:49:26 +0100
> From: Nick Schermer <nickschermer at gmail.com>
> To: Xfce Dev <xfce4-dev at xfce.org>, Xfce Goodies <goodies-dev at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: Moving git to other server.
> Message-ID:
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>
> Folks,
>
> Git repos are back online. However some things changed so read carefully:
>
> There is a new push location for developers. The old GIT accounts are
> not working anymore:
>
> DON'T TRY IT BECAUSE AFTER 4 FAILED LOGINS YOU WILL BE BANNED FOR 1 HOUR!!!
>
> So what you need to do is this:
>
> Go to the release manager: https://releases.xfce.org
> - recover your password, most commiters received an email about this,
> if not, contact me.
> - Make sure you also upload your ssh keys.
> - Check your permissions, if something is missing, let me know.
>
> Now wait for at least 15 MINUTES; let cron do it's job.
>
> Now you can check your permissions and see if everything succeeded.
> Run "ssh git at git.xfce.org" in a terminal. If it works it should list
> your permissions.
>
> Another change is the new push location: something like:
> ssh://git@git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar. Check the module page on
> git.xfce.org for the one you seek.
> You can set this new url with the following command: "git remote
> set-url origin ssh://git@git.xfce.org/XXX/XXX" or edit .git/config.
>
> The release manager is the single place you can handle everything: ssh
> keys and the cgit data previously hold in module.xml (yes you can drop
> that file). Git shell access it not there anymore, I've limited ssh
> access on mocha to only a small bunch of users.
>
> That's it mostly... if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!
>
> Cheers,
> Nick
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:20:36 +0100
> From: Nick Schermer <nickschermer at gmail.com>
> To: Xfce Dev <xfce4-dev at xfce.org>, Xfce Goodies <goodies-dev at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: Moving git to other server.
> Message-ID:
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> Folks,
>
> I forgot to mention you also get an ssh-key warning when you pull from
> the new server. You manually need to remove the old key from
> ~/.ssh/known_hosts and accept the new key which has the following
> fingerprint: c5:00:04:91:62:97:3b:a8:a8:43:64:61:e7:a4:2f:52, server
> ip is 138.48.2.107.
>
> Nick
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:55:43 +0100
> From: Nick Schermer <nickschermer at gmail.com>
> To: Xfce Dev <xfce4-dev at xfce.org>, Xfce Goodies <goodies-dev at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: Moving git to other server.
> Message-ID:
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> For lazy please like me with a lot of xfce clones the following
> command could be handy:
>
> find ./ -wholename "*/.git/config" -type f -exec sed -i
> 's,ssh://git.xfce.org/git/,ssh://git@git.xfce.org/,' {} \;
>
> Nick
>
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