Removing "Save session" from logout menu

[Pasi Lallinaho]

Hello all Xfce developers and enthusiastics!

I'm sending this mail referring to the bug I just filed [1] and the
conversation with Jerome some days ago at #xfce-dev. The bug description
pretty much describes what I'd like and why. I also heard/remember this
has been discussed earlier.

What do you think of dropping the option?

The reason why I originally started asking about this (again) is that we
continuously have people with no panels. The most probable reason is
that their panel has crashed for a reason or another (more on this in
the next <p>), the panic and log out and the panel remains closed, and
when they log back in, it's not even trying to start since they've saved
the session with no panel.

I also have an idea how to investigate what are the reasons why the
panel crashes in the first place. (Especially Nick, tell me if it's
sensible to do this;) In Xubuntu Lucid+1 pre-Alpha/Alpha/Beta releases
we could "attach xfce4-panel to gdb" (I have no idea what this actually
means, I was told you can debug panel this way) and try to gather
information. We could instruct our testers to especially try to crash
the panel and act when the panel (maybe) crashes. Xubuntu, and I think
Xfce as well, would definitely benefit from this kind of testing, if the
data would solve at least some of the panel crashing cases.

Also, if you have any ideas why the panel might be crashing, how could
we proceed with it and could that information be base for the tests we
should make our testers work on? Lionel told his thoughts about this
happening because of some session problems in libxfcegui4, is this possible?

Just trying to get this solved out. Let's be creative and splat this
old, stinky bug together!

[1] http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6403

Cheers,

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Pasi Lallinaho
Xubuntu Marketing Lead
Web-designer, graphic artist
IRC: knome @ freenode