Thank you for your help!

[Rodrigo Coacci]

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Enrico Tröger <enrico.troeger at uvena.de>wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:24:14 -0300, "Rodrigo Coacci"
> <rcoacci at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > Am Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:35:21 +0200
> > > schrieb Enrico Tröger <enrico.troeger at uvena.de>:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:28:13 +0200, samuel
> > > > <samuel.verstraete at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Nick Schermer
> > > > > <nickschermer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Ouch I should register a PayPal account too, it sounds like
> > > > > > making easy money ^_^ (just kidd'n here, gives me some kind
> > > > > > of different view on the Xfce community too).
> > > > >
> > > > > easy money and the chicks for free! \o/
> > > >
> > > > Haha.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe it's time to rethink about a donation system for Xfce?
> > > >
> > > > I think there are more people who want to give something back and
> > > > might be some of them want to do this by donating some money.
> > > > But on xfce.org there is nothing mentioned about all this and so
> > > > people probably won't donate.
> > >
> > > I've made some thoughts about making Xfce join a non-profit umbrella
> > > organization maybe but we'll have need to discuss this in more
> > > detail. After all the feedback I received so far, I can only agree
> > > with you. However, it doesn't end with having a donation system
> > > available. We also need a clear strategy on what to do with them.
> > > There are a lot of possible uses for money be it taking part in
> > > conferences, organizing Xfce meetings or even set up some kind of
>
> Of course. Just a 'donate' button on the website wouldn't do the trick,
> at least not completely. But this is the most important thing for users
> and potential donators as they need a starting point, see the mail from
> 'Graeme Wolfendale' in this thread.
>
> IIRC some time ago, Stephan asked for some support in getting a flight
> ticket for joining a conference or something. That would be a great use
> case for any donated money among the other things you mentioned.
>
> Just one another:
> lately, we added a 'donate' button for the Geany project on its website
> and a few weeks later we already got two donations. Then think of the
> community around Geany compared to the one of Xfce, I'm sure there will
> be lots of donations.
>
>
> > I believe the bounty system to be something nice to use the donations.
> > Anjuta guys are getting some good progress using it (see their symbol
> > browser plugin). After all, the thing we want most is a better
> > Xfce :-) I know some people that could reeeaaaally get "inspired" to
> > contribute if he got some money (even if its only 50 bucks) :-P
>
> I don't like this.
> IMO it destroys partly the idea of OSS. Not completely as long as the
> resulting code is still under a free licence but I'd always liked the
> idea that people are writing code because they want to, because they
> like to write this code not because someone paid for it.
> This is what most of us have in the professional life.
> In other words, IMO it's most often better to get code written because
> the author needs it or wants it and so he is writing the code with more
> passion than as he would just write the code to get it written.
>

I agree with you. And the people (most precisely the person) I was talking
about (but no names! :-P ), does code for passion. But sometimes people need
something to get commited to, and I believe a bounty also adds a "challenge"
thing to it. What I meant was not use the bounty to "hire" people to do
things, but to add one *more* motive to people to be more active in the
community and maybe to thing Xfce main devs find boring or else. It's more
like "hey this annoys me, I'd like (and I can) solve this but <add real life
reason>.... Hey I can get 50 bucks by doing something I'd like! Nice I'll do
it!" thing. But obviously, it's up to Xfce guys to decide that.



>
> Just my 2cents.
>
> Regards,
> Enrico
>
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Rodrigo

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