Thank you for your help!

Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger at
Fri Sep 12 10:39:22 CEST 2008

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:24:14 -0300, "Rodrigo Coacci"
<rcoacci at> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at>
> wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > Am Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:35:21 +0200
> > schrieb Enrico Tröger <enrico.troeger at>:
> >
> > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:28:13 +0200, samuel
> > > <samuel.verstraete at> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Nick Schermer
> > > > <nickschermer at> wrote:
> > > > > Ouch I should register a PayPal account too, it sounds like
> > > > > making easy money ^_^ (just kidd'n here, gives me some kind
> > > > > of different view on the Xfce community too).
> > > >
> > > > easy money and the chicks for free! \o/
> > >
> > > Haha.
> > >
> > > Maybe it's time to rethink about a donation system for Xfce?
> > >
> > > I think there are more people who want to give something back and
> > > might be some of them want to do this by donating some money.
> > > But on there is nothing mentioned about all this and so
> > > people probably won't donate.
> >
> > I've made some thoughts about making Xfce join a non-profit umbrella
> > organization maybe but we'll have need to discuss this in more
> > detail. After all the feedback I received so far, I can only agree
> > with you. However, it doesn't end with having a donation system
> > available. We also need a clear strategy on what to do with them.
> > There are a lot of possible uses for money be it taking part in
> > conferences, organizing Xfce meetings or even set up some kind of

Of course. Just a 'donate' button on the website wouldn't do the trick,
at least not completely. But this is the most important thing for users
and potential donators as they need a starting point, see the mail from
'Graeme Wolfendale' in this thread.

IIRC some time ago, Stephan asked for some support in getting a flight
ticket for joining a conference or something. That would be a great use
case for any donated money among the other things you mentioned.

Just one another:
lately, we added a 'donate' button for the Geany project on its website
and a few weeks later we already got two donations. Then think of the
community around Geany compared to the one of Xfce, I'm sure there will
be lots of donations.

> I believe the bounty system to be something nice to use the donations.
> Anjuta guys are getting some good progress using it (see their symbol
> browser plugin). After all, the thing we want most is a better
> Xfce :-) I know some people that could reeeaaaally get "inspired" to
> contribute if he got some money (even if its only 50 bucks) :-P

I don't like this.
IMO it destroys partly the idea of OSS. Not completely as long as the
resulting code is still under a free licence but I'd always liked the
idea that people are writing code because they want to, because they
like to write this code not because someone paid for it.
This is what most of us have in the professional life.
In other words, IMO it's most often better to get code written because
the author needs it or wants it and so he is writing the code with more
passion than as he would just write the code to get it written.

Just my 2cents.


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