A quick idea
psybsd at gmail.com
Wed Sep 13 09:38:55 CEST 2006
On 9/12/06, Jasper Huijsmans <jasper at xfce.org> wrote:
> 2006/9/12, Erik Harrison <erikharrison at gmail.com>:
> > The Xfce settings manager is occasionally praised for its UI. It's
> > nice and simple, and much more manageable than a long list of possible
> > settings, or a complex tree sidepane and main panel.
> > Unfortunately it's not a complete tool - it only manages settings for
> > the "desktop". That means Xfce and any apps for which we've written a
> > wrapper plugin. The remaining Settings tools show up in the single
> > biggest submenu on my system.
> > I propose, for 4.5/4.6 eliminating the settings menu by default in the
> > desktop menu, and replacing xfce-settings-show with an app that, just
> > like the menu does, shows an aggregate of all the appropriate .desktop
> > files, organized by subcategory.
> > I think this would improve the usability of the desktop, while at the
> > same time simplifying how we add buttons to the tool - no need to
> > write wrapper plugins anymore, just ship with a .desktop file. It also
> > makes it MUCH easier for downstream to add buttons to the tool. I know
> > at least HP added a number of mcs wrapper plugins for it's Xfce based
> > thin client.
> > Thoughts?
> I think it is indeed important (after 4.4) to evaluate and reorganize
> our platform. This includes bringing in libexo and maybe combining
> some libraries, but certainly also settings management.
> I'd like to see the settings manager be non-gui only and allowing
> external programs to get and set values. Then it would be easy to have
> external utilities, with desktop files, to allow the user to change
> the settings. It would even make it possible to have alternative user
> interfaces. Yeah, much like gconf. In fact, I think we should
> seriously consider using gconf or at least making it easy to do so at
> a later time when they get rid of the corba dependency.
I was wondering, where do you stand in regards to OPC?
OPC is widely used in the Industrial Automation bussiness, there is an
OPC XML-DA spec (based on SOAP) which is used for setting/reading data
from PLC's and other embedded devices. The design of OPC is abstract
enough to use it in a configuration utility for Xfce.
Another effect of this will be that ppl can actually administer their
network through SCADA applications.
On a side node, it has never been done before on a *nix system, and
therefore would be revolutionary. I have no idea about the legal
issues regarding the use of OPC except that it is an open standard,
maintained by the opc foundation.
If you think it something worth looking into, i can contact the
OPC-foundation for more information regarding legal issues, patents
If not, forget i mentioned it ;)
> Just some very random thoughts from me...
And these where mine...
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