[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#370482: multiple locations for keyboard shortcuts

[Rodrigo Coacci]

Hum, I understand the problem, but that leads me to another question: why do
we need 2 apps with/managing keyboard shortcuts? OTOH, couldn't you just
disable one in favor of the other?

On 6/5/06, Stephan Arts < psybsd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/5/06, Rodrigo Coacci < rcoacci at gmail.com> wrote:
> > That's indeed confusing. The other day I had to ask the mailing list
> just to
> > find out the shortcut I was looking for was somewhere else...
> > It would really be better to put all key bindings managed by Xfce in one
>
> > place....
> > Yes I know other apps can grab keys, but thats not the point. The point
> is
> > that two places in Xfce config to put keybidings is really confusing,
> > because ppl usually don't know/notice (or don't remeber) that xfwm is
> > running and is another app
> >
> >
> > On 6/5/06, Simon Huggins <huggie at earth.li> wrote:
> > >
> >  forwarded 370482
> > http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1705
> > thanks
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 07:31:18AM -0600, Troy Heber wrote:
> > > I just upgraded to 4.3.90.1 (Xfce 4.4 BETA1) and noticed that some of
> > > my keyboard shortcuts quit working. I looked at Xfce Settings Manager
> > > -> Windows Manager -> Keyboard, my profile was still intact after the
> > > upgrade and my keybindings for "Alt-F1" and "Alt-F2" were there, and
> > > there was no conflicting command with the same keybindings.
> >
> > > However, "Alt-F1/F2" reverted to default Xfce behavior, Xfce help and
> > > run command, respectively. I took me quite some time to discover Xfce
> > > Settings Manager -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts. In there there is a
> > > "Default" shortcut profile that seems to have precedence over the
> > > Windows manger keyboard shortcuts.
> >
> > > So, my wish list item for upstream would be to merge these into a
> > > single keyboard shortcuts. If that is not possible then at least on
> > > upgrade, if a new default shortcut exists make sure that it's not
> > > clobbering an existing previously defined and working shortcut defined
> > > by the user.
> >
> > Yes, I hit this exact same bug.  You can see upstream's reaction at
> >   http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1705 but I still
> > believe this
> > is a bug and sadly my prediction that Debian users would hit this has
> > come true :(
> >
> > Simon.
> >
> > --
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> >
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> >
> > --
> > Abraços,
> >       Rodrigo
> >
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>
> I agree with your arguments.
>
> But besides the question if we should or should not centralize all
> Xfce shortcuts, this is not (nor will be) an issue for Xfce 4.4.
>
> The current way settings are processed does not allow an abstract
> separation of 'user-view' and 'developer-view'. As a result of that,
> moving multi-app settings into one plugin will without a doubt result
> in hacks and unmaintainable code.
> Which would in turn result in unsolvable bugs... So, let's not ;)
>
> Stephan
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-- 
Abraços,
      Rodrigo
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