[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#370482: multiple locations for keyboard shortcuts

[Stephan Arts]

On 6/5/06, Rodrigo Coacci <rcoacci at gmail.com> wrote:
> That's indeed confusing. The other day I had to ask the mailing list just to
> find out the shortcut I was looking for was somewhere else...
> It would really be better to put all key bindings managed by Xfce in one
> place....
> Yes I know other apps can grab keys, but thats not the point. The point is
> that two places in Xfce config to put keybidings is really confusing,
> because ppl usually don't know/notice (or don't remeber) that xfwm is
> running and is another app
>
>
> On 6/5/06, Simon Huggins <huggie at earth.li> wrote:
> >
>  forwarded 370482
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1705
> thanks
>
> On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 07:31:18AM -0600, Troy Heber wrote:
> > I just upgraded to 4.3.90.1 (Xfce 4.4 BETA1) and noticed that some of
> > my keyboard shortcuts quit working. I looked at Xfce Settings Manager
> > -> Windows Manager -> Keyboard, my profile was still intact after the
> > upgrade and my keybindings for "Alt-F1" and "Alt-F2" were there, and
> > there was no conflicting command with the same keybindings.
>
> > However, "Alt-F1/F2" reverted to default Xfce behavior, Xfce help and
> > run command, respectively. I took me quite some time to discover Xfce
> > Settings Manager -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts. In there there is a
> > "Default" shortcut profile that seems to have precedence over the
> > Windows manger keyboard shortcuts.
>
> > So, my wish list item for upstream would be to merge these into a
> > single keyboard shortcuts. If that is not possible then at least on
> > upgrade, if a new default shortcut exists make sure that it's not
> > clobbering an existing previously defined and working shortcut defined
> > by the user.
>
> Yes, I hit this exact same bug.  You can see upstream's reaction at
>  http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1705 but I still
> believe this
> is a bug and sadly my prediction that Debian users would hit this has
> come true :(
>
> Simon.
>
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I agree with your arguments.

But besides the question if we should or should not centralize all
Xfce shortcuts, this is not (nor will be) an issue for Xfce 4.4.

The current way settings are processed does not allow an abstract
separation of 'user-view' and 'developer-view'. As a result of that,
moving multi-app settings into one plugin will without a doubt result
in hacks and unmaintainable code.
Which would in turn result in unsolvable bugs... So, let's not ;)

Stephan