[project-proposal] xfce4ring

[Stephan Arts]

On 4/25/06, Stephan Arts <psybsd at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/25/06, Benedikt Meurer <benny at xfce.org> wrote:
> > Stephan Arts wrote:
> > > Currently (xfce 4.0 4.2 and 4.4) uses the xfce-mcs-manager for
> > > configuration purposes.
> > >
> > > Though Xfce 4.4 is still at BETA stage, i would like to start a
> > > discussion about the development of a possible successor of
> > > xfce-mcs-manager.
> > >
> > > Thinks i think we should be able to do with it are:
> > > (Thanks to ElAngelo)
> > >
> > > 1. Support MetaThemes
> > > 2. Support dnd for theme installation
> > > 3. Plugin grouping, ordering plugins by group
> > > 4. Allow writing plugins with scripting-languages like python / ruby / perl.
> > >
> > > 1) - (Complete theme-packages for wm, gtk, icons and perhaps even wallpaper)
> > >
> > > 2) - ( ~/.themes is too complicated for most new users)
> > >
> > > 3) - (this way we can make the GUI less cluttered.)
> > >
> > > 4) - (This probably means we cannot use gmodule for it anymore)
> > >
> > > I would like to know what your ideas are about this.
> >
> > There was discussion about this earlier and there is a prototype,
> > xprefs. The GUI stuff is more or less trivial. What's way more important
> > is to decouple the user interface from the settings storage.
>
> I agree
>
> > I wanted to wait for D-Conf tho. Anyway this is a post 4.4 item and from
> > my experience, this should not be discussed now, there are more
> > important things to address first.
>
> Indeed this is a post 4.4 issue, but because this will potentially
> become a big change i do not think we should not talk about it.
>
> - What do users expect from it?
> - What do developers require?
> - What is important, and what is not?
>
> That way, when xfce 4.5 comes on the horizon, it is easy to specify a
> requirements-list.
> (Because insane requests have already been filtered out, and other
> things pop-up that we otherwise miss)
>
> >
> > Benedikt

The reason i did not continue on the former thread about this issue is
not because i want the project to be started immediately. I just think
that it cannot hurt to debate about the issue. Most people, developers
and users alike agree on the notion the xfce-mcs-manager does not
suffice any longer.

But, no single person can come up with a complete requirements-list
because everyone wants something else, but no-body wants code-bloat.

But if you really feal we should not talk about this for the next two months...

Stephan