panel item remove confirmation

[Jasper Huijsmans]

Brian J. Tarricone schreef:
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> 
>>So, looking at these points, and playing with the panel myself, it's
>>pretty obvious that the culprit is the damn right click menu on the
>>panel itself.
>>
>>1) It has two Remove items, whose action is predicted by where it is in the menu
>>2) Ditto for properties
>>3) "Manage Panel Items" is a bit of a bastard child. It's global to
>>managing the panels state, but could be construed to deal with
>>managing a given item's preferences as well. And since it's the most
>>visually distinct item in the list (Three Capital Letters, longest,
>>middle of the menu), your eye goes straight to it. This has resulted
>>in this kind of behaviour
> 
> 
> I'm mentally debating whether or not I think  it's worth getting rid of
> two menu items (New Panel and Remove [panel]) at the expense of making
> Manage Panel Items more complicated (which I think is a nice cool simple
> UI).  Now, Manage Panel Items can also handle removal of items, but it's
> not quite intuitive.  I know someone already didn't realised that the
> panel items were draggable and had no idea how to rearrange them.  I'm
> sure there are some people who still don't know that you can drag panel
> items back to the dialog to remove them, and the reverse for adding them.
> 

Interesting to see you are/were struggling with the same issues I am. 
This pretty much sums up my own thoughts about this.

> Although... why not take the Firefox toolbar editor model all the way?
> 
> 1.  Change "Manage Panel Items" to "Customize..."
> 2.  Add text "You can add or remove items by dragging to or from the
> panels" to the top of the panel item dialog (it already says something
> similar to this).
> 3.  Ditch the list idea.  Make each item in the dialog an icon with just
> its name under it.  The description can go in a tooltip.
> 4.  Each icon should be a screenshot of the actual plugin while it's in
> the panel, not some generic icon used to represent it.
> 5.  Change the mouse cursor to the grippy hand thing.
> 
> Now, this "fixes" the problem of the Remove (plugin) menu item: you
> don't need it anymore, and hopefully people won't be asking "yearrrrgh!
>  how do I remove panel items!?!?!".  Now we just have a single "Remove
> Panel" menu item (or just "Remove", under the "Panel" section, whichever
> is preferred).
> 

This is what I had in mind initially, but somehow I never got around to 
fully implementing it.

> Are there any a11y problems with this design?  I can't imagine Firefox
> would have adopted it if there were, though...
> 

My concern, also with current implementation, is that it is DND only. 
I'm not sure it won't cause problems for some people.

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> 
> I think you're forgetting one kinda important bit: not everyone has
> their panel on the bottom of the screen.  When you right click a
> screen-top panel, the closest item to the mouse pointer is the one at
> the top of the menu.
> 

...which is likely why it is the way it is now ;-)

> 
>>I feel like this is much more usuable, and dodges the workaround that
>>a confirmation dialog causes.
>>
>>If this was all Too Much Information - blame Brian. He asked for it.
> 
> 
> And this is exactly what I wanted; thanks.
> 

Thanks,
	Jasper