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Olivier Fourdan fourdan at
Tue Nov 1 09:30:05 CET 2005

Some very similar reports in that thread:

BTW you said "that's unfortunate, since it's mostly impossible to prove
it either way." 

I strongly disagree with you here. On one side, you have xfwm4, a fully
open source project with open SVN and developpers avaiable to reply,
while in the other side, you have a proprietary driver with no source,
and developpers totally unreachable.

That's the strngth of open source...


On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 09:19 +0100, Olivier Fourdan wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 01:01 -0800, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
> > 
> > If your definition of 'works' is 'unbearably slow, making the desktop
> > unusable for normal tasks', then sure, it 'works'. ^_~
> Yes, my definition of "works" fall in that case. Software rendering is
> slow, that's no news, doesn't mean it doesn't work.
> My feeling is that "nv" is faster than "nvidia" without render accel.
> "nvidia" binary driver is proprietary, and until proven otherwize the
> only common denominator between the crashes. So it's unfixable.
> > Did you test those with the nvidia binary drivers?  I haven't yet, but I
> > might go to the effort if you haven't.  Have you reproduced my 100% CPU
> > issue?  You mentioned before that you weren't able to.  Note that I
> > don't get a crash at all, just 100% CPU utilisation on the X process
> > after 1-2 hours of xfwm4 runtime.  Restarting only xfwm4 fixes the
> > problem for another 1-2 hours.
> Yes, I have 2 computers with 2 NVidia cards, and both show the same
> problem with NVidia proprietary drivers (I couldn't reproduce the
> problem bacause I disable render accel because it's too unstable)
> You may want to take a look at NVidia forums here
> Next version are said to be usable (as usual), but I doubt it.
> The only driver that worked was 6629. Anything after crash (and by
> crash, I mean 100% CPU utilization)
> > > Sorry, but either revert to "nv" open source driver, disable render
> > > accel or turn off the compositor. BTW, I'm pretty sure the problem is
> > > not with my code unless proven otherwise.
> > 
> > That's unfortunate, since it's mostly impossible to prove it either way.
> >  Pretty much anything I can say (such as, "it works ok with SVN revision
> > X, but not with Y"), you can just say "well I guess I'm just exposing a
> > bug in nvidia's drivers".  *sigh*  Ah well; it's a shame to have to
> > disable the compositor, but that's really the only option open.  Perhaps
> > 'nv' will perform better in 6.7.0.
> Well, by sticking to factgs, here is what we have:
> * KDE with compositing enabled show the same symptoms. Can't even log
> in, the system freeezes while displaying the splash screen.
> * xcompmgr crashes. More subtly though, need to move/resize windows with
> shadows enabled.
> * xfwm4 works w/out shadows enabled. The problem seems to come from the
> shadow.
> I've changed to code so that shadows get disabled by default.
> Cheers,
> Olivier.
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