What are the objectives for Xfce 4.4?

[Auke Kok]

Benedikt Meurer wrote:

> Benedikt Meurer wrote:
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>> Auke Kok wrote:
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>>> Biju Chacko wrote:
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>>>> Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
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>>>>> Biju Chacko wrote:
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>>>>>> * We need to get rid of the concept that one module == one 
>>>>>> package. The current plethora of packages is a pain and detracts 
>>>>>> from our image of being lightweight. Ideally, we ought to have 
>>>>>> just xfce-core, xfce-applications and xfce-devel. If we do this 
>>>>>> correctly, it should still be possible for people who only want a 
>>>>>> single module (most probably xfwm4) to get only it.
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>>>>> I'm not seeing how this would work.  The first part seems to me to 
>>>>> be directly contradictory with the second.  If we have an 
>>>>> xfce-core package, how do you just install xfwm4 out of it?  Think 
>>>>> of the children!  Er... packagers.  I don't want to say "everyone 
>>>>> else does it the single package way, so we should too", but... 
>>>>> well, yeah.  It's done this way for a reason, and unless it's 
>>>>> demonstrably better to do it another way (I'm not convinced it 
>>>>> is), then it should stay the same.
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>>>> I was thinking that it should still be possible to checkout 
>>>> xfce4/xfwm4 and get a buildable module, nothing more than that.
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>>>>>> * Move xfcalendar, xfterminal, xfmedia, mousepad into a separate 
>>>>>> project called 'xfce applications'. Add all new utilities to this 
>>>>>> project. Core probably already has all the modules that need to 
>>>>>> be there.
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>>>>> Nuh-uh.  I like maintaining Xfmedia on my own website, and that's 
>>>>> where it's gonna stay.
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>>>> Thats fine. The point is that there should be a clear focus on what 
>>>> the xfce project does, ie the desktop and only the desktop. 
>>>> Applications should be elsewhere, either in personal cvses like 
>>>> xfmedia or in a common repository for stuff that may be worked on 
>>>> by multiple people.
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>>>> -- b
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>>> might I suggest something like 'directory.xfce.org' that shows a 
>>> rather static list of Xfce applications and components? Should not 
>>> be that hard to maintain, and can even be wiki based if setup 
>>> separately of the main site. Other alternatives are also possible, 
>>> and the residence on the main site would make it impartial towards 
>>> xfce-goodies/berlioz... we just want to show (as xfce devs) that 
>>> there are many xfce applications out there!
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>> Such a page is already available at
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>>  http://www.xfce.org/~benny/apps.html
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>> which lists the available 3rd party apps. I started this page because 
>> there was a demand for such a list. If anybody wants to maintain this 
>> list instead (probably using directory.xfce.org), that would be very 
>> nice.
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> BTW: How about apps.xfce.org, with some small CMS? And people that 
> keep the info up-to-date (screenshots, versions, etc.). Any 
> volunteers? ;-) 


not me! but that was sorta my idea, yes. You'd want an enthusiastic 
non-coder who can compile etc to maintain such a site (not too much 
work). But it's better than putting it on your public_html since that 
suggests that only one person is in control over it (not bad... but he 
should be coding instead).

anyway as usual the http stuff is available. Pick a CMS/maintainer and 
we're go.

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