What are the objectives for Xfce 4.4?

[Benedikt Meurer]

Auke Kok wrote:
> Biju Chacko wrote:
> 
>> Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
>>
>>> Biju Chacko wrote:
>>>
>>>> * We need to get rid of the concept that one module == one package. 
>>>> The current plethora of packages is a pain and detracts from our 
>>>> image of being lightweight. Ideally, we ought to have just 
>>>> xfce-core, xfce-applications and xfce-devel. If we do this 
>>>> correctly, it should still be possible for people who only want a 
>>>> single module (most probably xfwm4) to get only it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not seeing how this would work.  The first part seems to me to be 
>>> directly contradictory with the second.  If we have an xfce-core 
>>> package, how do you just install xfwm4 out of it?  Think of the 
>>> children!  Er... packagers.  I don't want to say "everyone else does 
>>> it the single package way, so we should too", but... well, yeah.  
>>> It's done this way for a reason, and unless it's demonstrably better 
>>> to do it another way (I'm not convinced it is), then it should stay 
>>> the same.
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>>
>>
>> I was thinking that it should still be possible to checkout 
>> xfce4/xfwm4 and get a buildable module, nothing more than that.
>>
>>
>> [..]
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>>>> * Move xfcalendar, xfterminal, xfmedia, mousepad into a separate 
>>>> project called 'xfce applications'. Add all new utilities to this 
>>>> project. Core probably already has all the modules that need to be 
>>>> there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nuh-uh.  I like maintaining Xfmedia on my own website, and that's 
>>> where it's gonna stay.
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>>
>>
>> Thats fine. The point is that there should be a clear focus on what 
>> the xfce project does, ie the desktop and only the desktop. 
>> Applications should be elsewhere, either in personal cvses like 
>> xfmedia or in a common repository for stuff that may be worked on by 
>> multiple people.
>>
>> -- b
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> 
> might I suggest something like 'directory.xfce.org' that shows a rather 
> static list of Xfce applications and components? Should not be that hard 
> to maintain, and can even be wiki based if setup separately of the main 
> site. Other alternatives are also possible, and the residence on the 
> main site would make it impartial towards xfce-goodies/berlioz... we 
> just want to show (as xfce devs) that there are many xfce applications 
> out there!

Such a page is already available at

  http://www.xfce.org/~benny/apps.html

which lists the available 3rd party apps. I started this page because 
there was a demand for such a list. If anybody wants to maintain this 
list instead (probably using directory.xfce.org), that would be very nice.

> sofar

Benedikt