One thing I noticed was really missing from xfce was a "kill window/app" button. Did I miss this? I use the one in gnome quite frequently. Sincerely, Joe Crawford ___________________________________ Owner - Joetainment Enterprises Cell: 604-866-3050 Email: joe at joetainment.com Messenger: joetainment at hotmail.com ICQ: 103730379 Web: www.joetainment.com